This website is an ongoing work in progress. Hayes and Pacific have a shared DNA, said Larry McNutt, Pacific Truck Manufacturings proprietary parts, export parts sales. 3.2m Weight 20,000kg / 44,092lb Torque 175,000 Ncm Default Driven Wheels Rear Role Heavy Price 126600 Manufacturer Behind The Scenes Based On Pacific P12 File Name pacific_p12w The Pacific P12 is a licensed truck in SnowRunner. Pacific Truck & Trailer Limited was a Vancouver, Canada based manufacturer of heavy trucks famed for their durability. It was a busy time for them back then. Can only be equipped with saddle high or log carrier addon. With their good P/W ratio combined with a wide versatility and relatively low price, these trucks will be your best friends for quite a while. Saber Interactive, the game developer, first announced it as the sequel to MudRunner. Great to read this history and very have strong memories of my visit to Pacific trucks factory in Vancouver in 1988 where there was 2 log trucks under construction (1 virtually completed & the other was 1/2 built. Still, it shows up in some searches: Chris Doering Lost Alberta. For the most part the Pacific line was carried over as before with few changes. Not that good either. The rebuilt cab has been centre mounted for better all around visibility. Im the proud owner / operator of a 1981 Pacific 510S Selfloader . NEWS! They are manufactured for second growth trees, all around the same size, smaller than first growth, which is what Pacific and Hayes trucks were hauling. A hulking monstrosity of a gearbox, this variant allows to fine-tune the Low Gear / R Gear transfer ratio in exchange for increased fuel consumption, especially in AWD mode or without proper maintenance. Also, it can haul both long logs and heavy semitrailers due to the saddle high and log carrier front add-ons. Itll be interesting to see what happens to this beast and well try and keep an eye on it. As for having it switchable, it has . The data I collected was honestly just me who wants to understand the rules the game plays by better. This truck was found entirely by accident and only a wrong turn down a side brought us to it. Some would argue that Pacific should hold the title as the toughest all around truck ever produced. 4520 Derry Special 15C-177 International Paystar 5600TS KOLOB 74760 KOLOB 74941 Kirovets K-700 Kirovets K-7M Navistar 5000-MV Pacific P12 Pacific P16 Pacific P512 PF Tatra FORCE T815-7 Tatra T813 Western Star 47X NF 1424 Western Star 47X . Lastly, there's the DLC vehicle ZiKZ 605R from the New Frontiers pack. We have to take a look at the true (calculated) fuel consumption. McNutt is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Pacific Truck, having worked for the company for several years. The vehicle also features a 6x6 wheel configuration and a differential lock system, making it a great scout truck. Im glad I made the mistake! Stay up to date on technology, regulations and trucking life. On the flip side, for quick runs where there is mud but I only have to carry a few load items I use the Bandit. Darry Longhorn 3194 -Speaking of comments: refer to them for reader updates. Fuel consumption & Fuel Capacity: Fuel consumption is a bit strange for how it's displayed in the garage, but still.. the higher it is, the faster the truck burns fuel. Like the lighter P12, the Pacific P16 was designed for the logging industry. It's not written in any xml file I could find, so it's likely calculated by the engine and coded into it. But a look at the AWD rates show that an increase from ~15% to ~27% is to be expected. [1], In 1981, International Harvester sold Pacific Truck and Trailer to Inchcape Berhad (Singapore). The 4 1/2 5th wheel has a 22 lift with new pins bushings and cylinder. This 1985 Pacific P16 Off Road Truck is a frame off restoration with many modifications. The truck version does show us some promising numbers on the low range AWD off part. Initially based on a shipping wharf at West Coast Shipyards on False Creek, in 1948 it moved to Franklin Street, East Vancouver. It is a military logistics truck that can run smooth roads and offroad terrains with equal power and speed. I once helped a driver install a power divider from an old Hayes into a 1980 Kenworth. ), Hey dude, how are you? Why have one obsession when you can have many? Like its lighter cousin, the P16 requires some engine upgrades to make it truly shine. There are regular updates in the form of new articles, and revisions and corrections to old ones (yes, we mess-up). In 1947, three former Hayes Truck employees set up their truck-building shop, Pacific Truck & Trailer. That is true, with an analog trigger I can also adjust the top speed as well without any negative effects. We offer sales, service and support for the world's leading transmission, engine and powertrain component manufacturers. KHAN Lo4F comes with an 80-liter fuel capacity and has an all-wheel drive. It is equipped with a Caterpillar C15 Diesel Engine with 550 HP, pared with a CLBT 6061 Allison Automatic transmission. White tractor unit with silver and red Arctic trailer with company name on the door [Hard Out Haulage], usually found on the last page. They share the same number of gears, have a similar speed and purpose, with the fine-tune adding the analog low gears to it. The consumption rate ingame will usually be a little bit lower, but it's off by 0.x at best. Cutting 1/4 of the total range is a problem that can be severe for several trucks with smaller fuel tanks. Suspension Type: it indicates if the truck has stock suspensions or upgraded ones. Pacific Truck is a small portion of Coast Powertrain's business, which manufactures transmissions, drivelines, differentials, and the entire powertrain on predominantly heavy trucks. Behind the cab is a custom built aluminium bulk head featuring storage options. Despite its massive 14-liter V12 engine, the P16 for its size is actually very fuel efficient. Over one million words! Highway trucks are generally unusable outside of paved roads, but with good hauling potential. Tiny PSA: I still haven't managed to get the latest standalone DLC, hopefully i'll get it next week. Why not send a picture. The first block compares the gearboxes for scouts, the second for trucks and the third for special gearbox trucks. In fact, sometimes its hard to tell these trucks apart (at least I have that problem). This is a double down on range. By researching and testing ingame to reference my assumption, I've come to the conclusion that the game calculates the shown fuel consumption with the following formula: Total fuel consumption = (FuelConsumption[Engine] + FuelConsumption[Gearbox]) * AWDConsumptionModifier[ifAWDactive] * FuelModifier[Current gear] * Throttle. Pacific P16 pulling grade with a load of logs (LOUD!!) Stejn jako leh model P12 byla i varianta P16 navrhovna pro lesnick prmysl. Also used it to refuel the hauling truck as trying to bull through that mud burned more than half the fuel before it got stuck halfway across. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Occupation: Project manager. Western Star 6900 and GMC MH9500 can benefit from it since the AWD upgrades for both are locked in really hard DLC region. We did a lot of one-of-a-kind (trucks), said McNutt. Just under 1000. Crane continued until 2002, selling the Pacific name, intellectual property, and rights to Coast Powertrain of New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada.[1][2]. An improved gearbox variant that offers a full range of gears at the cost of higher fuel consumption. Why so many differing subjects? -When we chat about history: things were different then and may be in conflict with contemporary views. . BIGDoer.com operates as a non-profit. P16 tires have 46% higher friction in the mud than Tayga balloons. To see some other interesting old trucks we found in the Crowsnest Pass, including one of those Hayes mention in this report, click the link below Old trucks of the Crowsnest. The one seen here was an example of the latter, a coal hauling monster that spent its entire life hauling the black stuff at a nearby operation just across the border in BC. WEB TRANSLATIONChinese | French | German | Italian | Japanese | Korean | Russian | Spanish. It's a hybrid truck that comes from the heavy-duty side but offers the reliability of the offroading trucks in SnowRunner. I get calls from people saying, Oh, youre still around, thank goodness, said McNutt. New air conditioning components will keep the driver cool in warmer temperatures. International managed worldwide sales, but left Pacific the design and manufacture of the products; however, some of the Pacific models featured International cabins. Weighing at 7,800 lbs, the Actaeon is quite lightweight for its overall dimensions. The truck version suprises with a faster reverse and high gear. * 4000v,1.5 a,600w.,emc. The glass is new all around as is the are the gauges, air controls and pedals. This item has been removed from the community because it violates Steam Community & Content Guidelines. Once the desired speed (or maximum speed) is reached, the engine RPM will reduce until the torque created by the engine is equal to the torque needed to counter all movement resistances like mud, water, driving uphill, friction etc. Even the 11% average increase for top gear seems acceptable. Rumor has it, he thinks about video games more than he breaths. Have you got anymore pictures youd like to pass on. Behind the cab is a custom built aluminium bulk head featuring storage options. While beeing still quite efficient without AWD, switching the full drivetrain on results in an increase of ~ 28% both in low+ gear and top gear. According to Hank Rabe, a Pacific authority, there was a fleet of 40 at the mine, of various models, this example being one of the last bought. The recession of the early 80s impacted demand and each passing year saw fewer and few tucks made. If you look closely, the 5600TS and the Twinsteer can hit the 40 liter mark with AWD on and low+ gear with a fine-tune gearbox, if they max out on torque. Their motto was: Pacific, Built Like No Other Truck. Blue marks less then 10% increase, yellow marks from 10% to 20% increase, red is everything above 20% increase. Please refer to the vehicle if there is a difference between the listing and the vehicle. The two are one of the biggest heaviest tractors in game, These are Pacific Siblings i.e Pacific P16 and Pacific P12 One is heavy and other is even heavier a. Looking at the formula again, it is clear that changing the engine results in a difference in percentage, since they have different fuel consumption values and those are added to the fuel consumption of the gearbox. Until I spoke with you, I was unaware that Pacific made a P600 series model its an odd looking design thats for certain, sort of homely yet strangely beautiful. DAN 96320 copies from BAZ 69092, a Russian artillery tractor and missile vehicle that is still operating to this date. We offer sales, service and support for the world's leading transmission, engine and powertrain component manufacturers. Tip #1: Always be aware of how much fuel you have left. This 1985 Pacific P16 Off Road Truck is a frame off restoration with many modifications. Not only do those tires vastly outperform any mudtire in the mud, they also have far better friction in the dirt and on the road compared to any mudtire. We offer sales, service and support for the world's leading transmission, engine and powertrain component manufacturers. Real-Life Pacific P16 Casually Hauling an Entire Forest [Pacific P16] 921 109 r/snowrunner Join 7 days ago Hi all, newish to the game. The new steering rack includes all new ball studs, rod ends, front springs, and torque rod bushings. Some were made of fiberglass, which McNutt said didnt work out so well because they shook and bounced on the road. - exchanges the P16 engines with slightly tuned and more fuel hungry us special (Twinsteer-)engines (same torque values as the kolob engines) - adds switchable AWD - adds Frameaddons: Cat745 Fueltank, Cat770G Fueltank, Bandit minicrane, sideboard and flatbed . Actually one more special order truck was made in 1995, long after regular production ceased. In October 1991, the last Pacific truck was built and the manufacturing plant was closed and torn down, with only the parts department left in operation in Vancouver. Anyone at Pacific, it was not our favorite, admitted McNutt. This is a model P12 W3 from the early 1980s. It is a behemoth of a vehicle with a whopping ten-meter length and close to four-meter width. "But mate, just use a controller" I can already hear you typing. Did you mean P500 and P510? First of all, it's good to see that there is no difference in idle fuel consumption. MapRunner. Dave Stewart is the owner of Coast Powertrain, which owns the heritage side of Pacific Truck, meaning anything that deals with the trucks that were manufactured back from day one of the company. Players must make their way out of sticky, muddy, and snowy situations as they traverse over 15 locations and complete the objectives. Some of our rebuilds are well over 15 years, and pushing 20 on the rebuilds, said McNutt, adding that the average lifespan of a new Pacific truck is around 40 years. Fan page dedicated to the Pacific Truck & Trailer brand of Heavy duty trucks and trailers. Remanufactured engines, remanufactured transmissions, industrial diesel engines, genuine Allison parts Lots of Dodge Power Wagons here. Valve Corporation. Our thrift store time lapse rig making the movie below. Generally, you'll want a truck with high enough suspensions to avoid obstacles. That dump truck can surely carry lots! This Pacific P-16 Off Highway Logging Truck is for sale on Vancouver Island. Thanks for posting! With a 300L fuel capacity, this truck specializes in crossing miles while carrying some of the heaviest materials in SnowRunner. An. Currently in Drummond Island and am wondering why I can't attach the fuel carrier semi to the P16. This is my dads truck, still in use on the farm for hauling silage. The P16 also lacks any options for tires making it somewhat of a poor choice for hauling loads in Alaska on icy roads. 4 have the same torque 1549 Lb-Ft. Pacific P16 and Pacific P12: The weight of Pacific P16 is 25 Tons and P2W is on the lower side in the game. The only thing that can limit the P16 is the width of the roads. It is also an exceptionally light one at 7,725 lbs, which makes it easy for players to carry it around. Our stuff's seen far and wide, all over the internet, in print and on TV BIGDoer? Built between the 70's and 90's in Canada to haul heavy cargo in some of the toughest roads in North America, the P16 does its job extremely well. Ten of thousands of hours invested! To view all content, please log-in with email or continue with Facebook, Google or Twitter: HERE! @Shay Hi! Team BIGDoer.com's mandate: to document historic sites and things before they're gone; to experience life in a crazy way, to play in the great outdoors, to observe, learn and share the experience with others. That's it. Many new components include a new alternator and starter, fan hub, Vulkan coupling drive line, charge air and transmission oil coolers, all new drive lines, compressor valves, and tanks. So, I will go through the numbers and give an analysis of the dataset below each chart. Pacific Truck is a small portion of Coast Powertrains business, which manufactures transmissions, drivelines, differentials, and the entire powertrain on predominantly heavy trucks. It's a Russian projectile vehicle that carries the heaviest cargo DAN 96320 has a 350-liter fuel capacity and comes with an always-on all-wheel drive and differential-lock system. This beast was made in North Vancouver BC by Pacific Truck and Trailer. As they say, one shouldn't judge a book by its cover, and that's what KHAN Lo4F is all about. BUT, a high P/W ratio can generate overconfindence while using the vehicle, leading to tipping, crashing.. Also if a truck has a low P/W ratio, it does not mean it's necessarily a bad truck (most of the time, it means it's. It is equipped with a GM V12 Twin Turbo Silver Series engine paired with an Allison 6061 Electric Shift Transmission. I have learned something new and thank you for it! The only really difference we see is that some trucks (the lighter duty ones, if Pacific ever made such a thing) were manufactured with International cabs. And I'm not fighting the steering constantly like in the Jeeps. View Details Trucks - Logging 2010 Kenworth T800 $165,000 Finance from: $3209.52/mo Kenworth T800 2010 Deleted 600 Cummins just rebuilt. Cheers Hardout. By accepting this notice and continuing to browse our website you confirm you accept our Terms of Use & Privacy Policy. Fred never did change and this truck is from early 80s. We hope you are too. Thats where he cut his teeth back in his youth. Dont forget, its possible to change out the front bumper for far better clearance. However, as a super heavy off-road truck, the P16 is slow, clunky and massive. . Durability: as with fuel consumption, not exactly displayed in the best of ways. I've gotten the second engine on it (again, no Westline engine yet) and for light hauling on calmer roads it's great, but with heavier cargo like metal beams and logs or in deeper dirt/mud it's started to give up, not to mention it's not very fuel efficient when carrying heavy stuff (15-20L/min). It was a tough market to be in and a custom maker just couldnt complete against the big boys. Sales continued to fall and by the late 1980s were a trickle. The rebuilt cab has been centre mounted for better all around visibility. We are the curious. Sometimes they all worked coupled forming an extra-long road train, including an extra-capacity lowloader trailer to total 860 tons gross combination mass. The frame has a triple reinforced chair. Additionally, it features five different gears and weighs a whopping 9,479 lbs. Now managing the export desk, and much of the Pacific division of its parent company, they no longer manufacture trucks, but they were a common sight in the 70s and 80s, hauling logs in B.C. But I wanted to know how for how much exactly, so I started crunching the numbers. On the good side it does not suffer any more penalties on the fuel modifier. Derry Longhorn 3194 Omnitruck Mod.io. Theres a piece of Canadian trucking history that many people have forgotten, and several newcomers to the industry never realized. Both have an rear drive only and the fuel tank is large enough that the 7% less range does not bother them much. Times change, and the trucks have changed as well. Please enable it in your browser settings and refresh this page. But pace yourself. Click . The new steering rack includes all new ball studs, rod ends, front springs, and torque rod bushings. But Canada, particularly B.C., can take pride in knowing that at one time it produced the toughest trucks on the market. Tens of thousands of visitors per month! You mean the Fleetstar that's parked outside the garage at the end of the tutorial/first garage? The front and rear fenders are custom fabricated steel. Over 48 years in operation Pacific built 2308 trucks. The big question is why not? Sharing our work is encouraged, as long as credit is given. This coal hauler did not have far to travel after being sold, and where we found it is less than 100km away from where it worked. The Pacific P512 PF is a good choice since it has no AWD and the various frame addons, combined with the really good P16 OHD tyres can boost this truck's performance crossing mud and water. Many new components include a new alternator and starter, fan hub, Vulkan coupling drive line, charge air and transmission oil coolers, all new drive lines, compressor valves, and tanks. As with size, well, the bigger tha better. These would be the models P9, P10, P12 and P16. Current Pacific trucks rights owner website, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pacific_Trucks&oldid=1139919298, Vehicle manufacturing companies established in 1947, Manufacturing companies based in Vancouver, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 17 February 2023, at 14:38. 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