Chris Johnson, FN Senior Product Manager, walks us through two new FN striker-fired pistols at SHOT Show 2023: the FN 510 Tactical, chambered in 10mm Auto, and the FN 545 Tactical, chambered in .45 ACP. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. Have you tried H322? If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. sierra Gameking , AOL. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. Vihtavuori N133, IMR-8308 XBR and Accurate LT-30 were paired with this bullet, but none particularly impressed. In some cases, the cartridge you want to shoot will dictate the type of rifle available. But like most rifles in 22 Hornet, the barrels of those in 218 Bee have a rifling twist of 1:16 inches, which is not quick enough to stabilize many of the bullets listed for this cartridge in various reloading manuals. . All Rights Reserved. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. However, maximum powder charges for the .17 Ackley are 0.2 to 0.7 grain heavier than for the .17 Hornady. Due to a higher density, more CFE BLK can be packed into a case. They will easily break 4,200 fps and terminal results are spectacular, as one would expect. The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. A newer powder that shows great promise is StaBall 6.5not only is it temperature insensitive and spherical (which makes charging cases easier), it is fast. Taurus Marketing Manager Caleb Giddings highlights the features of the new Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum, a purpose-built revolver with a 10.5-inch barrel and an effective recoil-taming brake, with Guns & Ammo Executive Editor Joe Kurtenbach. Patches wet with Barnes CR-10 pushed through the bore revealed a total absence of copper fouling. Plus, whats not to like about a cartridge with a near absence of recoil that shoots flat enough to take small game out to 300 yards? Chances are, if theyre a shooter, they have a .17-caliber rifle tucked away someplace. The .17 Remington, on the other hand, is the darling of predator hunters protective over pelts. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. This American-made, double-base spherical powder is a slower derivative of A-2230. Accuracy of the two powders in my guns is about the same, but the new powder pushes 40- and 50-grain bullets faster at slightly lower chamber pressures. Ill save those bullets for my .17 Hornet. The .17 Winchester Super Magnum (.17 WSM) is based on a Winchester .270 commercial nail gun case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. H414/W760 behind a 30gr. I can consistently keep them under an inch with this load. It requires a little more care than some of the run-of-the-mill cartridges, but it provides more unique results within its niche, too. During May 2016, he thinned the Idaho rockchuck and ground squirrel populations with a custom pistol in 17 Hornet built around a single-shot Sako A1 action. There are others, such as the excellent, mild-mannered .17 Mach 2, the accurate but short-lived .17 Remington Fireball and so on, but the cartridges detailed above are the main players on the current seventeen scene. Its not a spectacular cartridge, though, because a hanging steel plate at 300 yards didnt even move when shot with the tiny V-MAX bullets, but the approximately 200 foot-pounds (ft-lbs) of energy the little bullets still carry at 300 yards is enough to kill a ground squirrel. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. Pressure indications were still quite mild in my rifle. Ruger's multi-role small frame autoloading rifle - Sear - combines AR-10 power with AR-15 Portability. Magazines are detachable, in both four-shot and seven-shot versions. The Nosler 20-grain bullet was happiest at 0.015 inch. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. The 20-grain bullet of Hornady factory ammunition had to free-travel 0.102 inch prior to rifling engagement. 71/2 and 24 gr of 4320 under a 25 gr bullet gives me 3900 from a 22 inch barrel and is 1/4 -1/2 inch accuracy. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. The 218 Bee was developed specifically for the Winchester Model 65 lever action, and despite its extremely light recoil, it has always been factory loaded with tube-magazine-friendly bullets with flatnose profiles. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Great velocity with 25 grainers but poor accuracy. The Best of both worlds: After nearly 4 years of waiting, Dan Wesson's DWX is here. These are 5-shot groups fired at 100 yard targets. His most successful wildcat, the .17 Hornet Improved, requires an RCBS die set for forming the case. Neck sizing the cases stretched them to 1.344. Of the two, the .17 HMR is far and away the most popular. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. leaves the others choking on its dust. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. I should have paid more attention to that OAL, as I seated these bullets .006-inch deeper, resulting in disappointing groups overall. Shooting this series during March, Id have to await sunshine to allow employing a standard chronograph to begin testing. 2 scale used in my tests detected no weight variation in charges of CFE BLK dispensed by the Redding measure, IMR 4198 varied by as much as 0.3 grain. An additional 0.8 grain of the powder increased velocity by 237 fps. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. Hodgdons load data shows 11.0 grains of H-4198 gave the 20-grain V-MAX a velocity of 3,226 fps. Ackley describes the .17 Hornet as sort of an improved .22 Hornet necked down to .17 caliber. There are a variety of .17-caliber bullets for handloaders to choose from. With a price tag under $700, this Mauser is one of the most accurate deer rifles you'll find for the money. The author obtained the tools, which took some time, and by the time the tools were ready Mr. ONeil had other things to occupy his mind, so that the project remained static until 1945. Well guys, winter is upon us and I am in dire need to try out a few new loads getting ready for the spring time ground squirrel ritual. The Hodgdons 2012 Annual Manual and the Hodgdon website list about the same maximum loads for the .17 Ackley Hornet and .17 Hornet with some powders. Factory .223 Remington loads often provide good accuracy, but the cartridge is a great choice for handloaders who want to duplicate or even exceed factory ammunition ballistics. : 4,638 4,917 Press. Today, they are down to one offeringa 25-grain Varmint Hollowpointand its a very accurate projectile. Muzzle flash in a 10.75-inch barrel is minimal, while touching off a charge of LilGun is remindful of how the 221 Fireball got its name. And CFE BLK does have several advantages over those two propellants. Reibers load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. Many primers have cups (the actual portion of the primer that the firing pin strikes) that are either too thin or too soft for the top loads in this cartridge. Most folks think that Gaston Glock introduced pistols with plastic . Perhaps you know someone who drives a Maserati, or a 1970s International pickup. So with some hold-over aiming finesse, the .17 would make a decent ground squirrel and prairie dog cartridge out to 300 yards. Possibly more germane, I was unable to clean the barrel as often as I would have liked during testing, my pull-through bore snake was too short to fish through the 26-inch barrel. But the difference was not great. CFE BLK shined, with 16 grains of powder producing a .45-inch group at 3,792 fps, and a maximum load of 17 grains printing .50 inch at 4,091 fps. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. For years, Remington was the only one that loaded the .17 Rem., but now factory ammunition can be had from Nosler and Hornady, as well. The 527 has a single-set trigger with a pull of 3.5 pounds that contains some creep, but pushing the trigger forward sets it, and pull weight changes to a light one pound. Smooth flow is also convenient to those who load on a single-stage press as it allows powder charges to be dispensed by a measure as opposed to the slower method of weighing each charge. One in the chamber and another in the magazine makes it a two-shooter. Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. Especially Remington brass. Use a Rem 7 1/2 primer. Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. The 20 grn Vmax had better accuracy and Mr. Nagels 20 grain pill was the most accurate. My LabRadar, which allows meeting deadlines during the endless overcast days of a northern Idaho winter, will not record speeds exceeding 4,000 fps. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. The .204 Ruger is essentially a .222 Remington Magnum case necked to accept .204-inch bullets, which results in 32- and 40-grain bullets being advertised at 4,225 fps . This five-shot, 100-yard group is from 20-grain Superformance Varmint V-MAX loads shot from a CZ 527 American rifle. When preparing loads for the Marlin rifle, I started with two flatnose bullets: the Hornady 45-grain hollowpoint and the Speer 46-grain softnose. Full-length sizing is fine if you want cartridges to headspace off the .17s rim, but that amount of sizing set the case shoulders back .005 inch, which can cause cases to split around the web after firing them a few times. Patches pushed through the bore came out with the black gunk of powder fouling but no blue color to indicate jacket fouling. You can use the Horn 25 HP My Rem LVSF likes the 25 VMAX with H4895 I have had as much as 3-6 grains variance in Rem brass. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. Using bullets from Hornady V-Max, Hornady V-Max or HP. The new rifle is built on an aluminum billet chassis with carbon-fiber forend and cheek riser featuring V-block bedding. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. This .65-inch, five-shot group was from Johns handloads with Berger 20-grain Flat Base Target bullets and Reloder 7. 70 and a sako vixen is: Rem case , cci bencrest pr., 21.2 gr. The .220 Swift is a .22-caliber round that fires .224-inch bullets, the same as used atop .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .224 Weatherby Magnum, .24 Nosler and similar .22 centerfire cartridges. Through the years I have handloaded for several lever-action rifles chambered for the 218 Bee, and recoil is so light I never found it necessary to crimp the mouth of the case into the bullet, so lack of a cannelure on the Sierra bullets is not a factor. He has been fooling with the 17R since the year it came out. Accurate 2460 shot 20- and 25-grain bullets a good 250 fps faster than other powders loaded in the .17 Fireball, and with great accuracy. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. Small powder charges result in cleaner shooting than the .17 Remington though all .17-caliber cartridges require frequent barrel cleaning to assure continued accuracy. The load was too much for F-Class. The Ruger test rifle used in this report preferred the Remington 6 primer. I could say the same with the Berger 25 grain Flat Base Varmint. I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. My most accurate loading/Rifle is a rare Remington 700 VSS with the factory 26" heavy stainless barrel. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. Hornady also calls its new .17-caliber cartridge the .17 Hornet. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. Hornady dies were used to handload cartridges for the .17 Hornet. Taking a bit more time at the loading bench can avoid a problem later at the range. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. During my youth, I shot a custom single-shot rifle in 17 Ackley Hornet built on a Winchester Model 1885 action belonging to one of my fathers hunting pals. Pat Mundy Remington introduced it in 1971, and soon thereafter a friend of mine bought a Model 700 BDL chambered for it. Whereas CFE BLK proved to be an excellent choice for the two 17 Hornets, shot-to-shot velocity spread was quite high when it was asked to burn in the roomier case of the 17 Fireball. A lot of trouble for sure, but it satisfied my curiosity. of benchmark with a Rem 7.5 primer The fouling was a bit heavier in the Marlin 1894, but it was easily removed. This is especially important when loading ammunition on a progressive press. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. Use of the Remington 6 primer improved accuracy in Reibers gun as well as mine. If the rifles are compared based on the average group size achieved with their favored brand of ammo the results are as follows. The Gunsmith should have the rifle in my hot little hands in about 2 weeks. When it comes down to velocity, the .17 Rem. They shoot whisper-tiny projectiles the same diameter as the BBs we all loved to pop away with as kids. It is about 600 fps faster than the .17 Hornets and an honest 300 fps faster than the Mach IV and the Fireball. Starting and maximum charges vary slightly in the Hornady manual, but no more than to be expected from different lots of the same powders or slight differences in barrels, cases and bullets. With the CZ sighted in 1.40 inches high at 100 yards, the bullets still hit an inch above aim at 200 yards. I first pulled bullets and dumped powder. In this cartridge, an overcharge of a fraction of a grain, particularly when working with near maximum loads, can produce excessive pressuresso a little extra care in this step is essential. It made a huge difference for me on my group size. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. In addition to delivering much lower velocity spreads, accuracy was better with IMR 4198 and H335. Like those bullets, the Sierra 40- and 45-grain Hornets expand on varmints quite nicely, but since they do not have flat noses, no more than one should be loaded in the tubular magazine of a lever-action rifle. The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. This concludes with an average overall group size for all types of ammunition. On the other end of the stick, almost all firearm manufacturers offer rimfire rifles chambered in .17 HMR, so shooters can pick and choose. load in a winchester mod. As a comparison, the extreme velocity spread was 108 fps for 10 shots of Hornadys Superformance Varmint 20-grain load. Also my 17 funnel and a box of the hsm 25 hp bergers. Ive been wrong before when predicting the cartridge-buying habits of small game hunters, but I hope Im not wrong about the .17 Hornady Hornet. I had expected chamber pressure and velocity of the factory load to be a bit lower in the improved chamber, and they were, but accuracy in my rifle was quite good. And while the burn rate of CFE BLK is too quick for the 17 Remington, Hodgdon recommends it for the smaller cartridge. The CZ 527 and Hornady factory loads combined for this 200-yard group. A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. My midway order just showed up with a box of the 20gr noslers and 25gr hornady hp. Like: H4350, H4831 SC, VV N550 & N160. When a new cartridge is introduced, its origins can often be traced to a cartridge P.O. Yet the little pills zipped downrange from .17-caliber rifles shoot with lazer-like flatness and produce surprisingly impressive results on small game and predators. While shooting the Cooper Model 21, I experimented a great deal with bullet jump (or lack of it), and the Berger 30-grain bullet shot best when seated 0.005 inch into the rifling. If you look at a burn rate chart and published reloading data, you will see other powders that are closeReloder 15, IMR4064, Varget, VV N-140, and H4895 are commonly referenced. Muzzle velocity was 3,488 fps at a chamber pressure of 46,400 psi. Zero the .17 Ackley Hornet with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max at 3,600 fps two inches high at 100 yards and it is two inches high at 200 yards and four inches low at 300. Moving up in powder capacity, the .17 Mach IV was introduced during the 1960s by Las Vegas gunsmith Vern OBrien, whose custom rifles were on the dainty Sako L46 action. My rifle is extremely accurate with the Hornady 40-grain V-Max and Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip, but it will not completely stabilize the 50-grain versions of those two bullets. I just spoke to a gent this past week on this subject. The use of more streamlined pointed bullets in bolt-action rifles, such as the Winchester 43, Kimber 82, and Sako L46, flattens trajectory and increases downrange punch. Unfortunately, our choices have become very sparse, but the V-MAX and the Berger HP both work better than the lighter bullets. Hodgdons recommended maximum of 12.5 grains with a 20-grain bullet fills a case formed from Winchester 22 Hornet brass to its brim. Give a Gift CFE 223 was introduced in 2012, and CFE Pistol followed in 2014. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Having the tools, it was decided to make a few barrels. When using that primer in this cartridge, it is important to begin with a starting load and keep a close eye on fired primer condition while carefully working up. One of my handloads with 9.5 grains of LilGun gave the 20-grain V-MAX a speed of 3,500 fps. My speed obsession may also have worked against me, as the lightest loads in many cases resulted in the best groups (though these were still well above actual start loads). Typically, groups with each rifle are fired for record by three or four Guns and Shooting Online staffers and/or contributors. The rifle weighs right at 7 pounds with a Turkish walnut stock and a Burris 10x scope. Using 18.5-, 19- and 19.5-grain charges of Ramshot X-Terminator produced .28-, .31- and .68-inch groups at 3,583, 3,687 and 3,809 fps, respectively, with a 1.81-inches OAL. Ben Voss FN Product Manager talks about the new FN SCAR 15P ultra-compact rifle-caliber pistol at SHOT Show 2023. ONeil of OKH fame. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Rifles chambered for the various .17-caliber centerfire cartridges often have extremely long chamber throats, and the Ruger Model 77/17H test rifle is one of them. The .17 Remington has a longer neck with the shoulder pushed back somewhat, and is .036 inch longermaking it unique. Berger set a terrific tone for .17 caliber bullets with a wide range of bulletsvariously producing bullets as light as 15 grains and as heavy as 37 grains (which require a very fast twist). The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. 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