So they are not going to use the General Transmissions brand. Or I have an old 5 sp trans from a JD. Please read these articles and reviews. One way that I look at this. Lawn is about 3/4 acre. Troy-Bilt Pony, Bronco & Super Bronco Mower Review Ten Inexpensive Quality Mowers. Now Im not totally taking his word for it at this point, as you know how that can turn out. I used it to mow and to pull an overloaded yard cart up hills for years, but that finally caught up with me. If you have large open areas to mow the cheaper manual works just as well because you just put it in a gear and gogogo. Tran is slipping very badly, barely moving forward. Both of these are heavier than the under $2500 bunch and will last considerably longer. CVT Automatic Transmissions. The rest of the industry is running away from Kawasaki as fast as they can. Just mowing flat lawns they will hold up. Maintenance-wise the hydro is the most dependable. Ill be doing mostly just mowing and snow plowing. Any dirt, metal filings or other contaminants will greatly shorten the life of the rebuild. You still have a light duty tractor, with a beefed up rear end. But the hydros with foot controls on all the Craftsman mowers comes with cruise control and drives very similar to a car so many people like that. The old Kohler Courage is the engine that he is complaining about. The use the same engines and transmissions yet the John Deere dealers charge $1000 to $3000 more. On the 2015 & the 2016 models of the Craftsman Pro Series model # 20442 , 46 , 24hp Kohler engine, what # is the current transmission on this model # 20442 ? Troy-Bilt Zero-Turn Mower Review Inexpensive Quality ZTRs. The Peerless was never listed as a shift on the go but we all just rammed it through the gears and it held up anyway. @Joe, I dont know. Do you know what tranny the new 2014 ariens from home depot uses? The price difference is down to around $50, so thats not really an issue. How long has the industry been doing this? Some of the Higher end Husqvarnas use the K66. I am not going into the details of how each one works. If there arent any which of these that claim to be are the best? In other words over the last 3 years Cub Cadet has completely gone through their product line and their operations. They dont have any warranty. Second question which transmission is best? I could not find the 20385 on SEARS site. In this price range would you recommend a auto cvt trans or a hydrostatic? Power steering and hydraulic deck lift are very nice features that you will enjoy for many years. The Red Craftsman, Poulan Pro and some Husqvarna GTs use the G730 Hydro-Gear. Twenty years ago the gear drive transmission was the most popular but today automatic hydrostatic and automatic CVT transmissions have replaced them in popularity. You may have been looking at the 20381. The 50 inch deck will get you mowing done in a couple of hours. The engine is good and will last. It should turn smoothly without grinding noises. You can see the tractor here: Craftsman 20391 at Sears. Eventually, we will get goats, sheep and or cattle to keep it under control. I would get a K46 or K57 from Surplus Center. Under most conditions the transmission will hold the tractor in position without having to step on the brake. Note: I am never on the slope for more than 10-20 seconds, but dont want to stress the tranny to early failure. Fast & Free shipping on many items! Check the other wheel. Hey Paul. aware of the issue ? Save. Thank you! 2. I am looking at getting the 2015 Cub Cadet XT2 GX54. Also take into consideration You can find people who have problems with anything particularly if you read the tractor forums. Is this transmission repairable or do you suggest buying a new Lawn Mower? The biggest issue is it pushes the tractor in a straight line. Its not designed at all to mow pastures or rough areas. Generally, You tractor is worth about $400 in great shape. Also push a 40 Berco snowblower in the winter. How would it compare to the TS354D? I would go for the X370. Here are 2 typical tractors that I recommend. The Raven MPV-7100/a> uses a hybrid drive system. Im looking at purchasing a Poulan Pro 42 in. I have a 2007 Husqvarna 2346xls. Equal in specs and life. I have a few hills in my yard but also want to be able to pull a 4x8 aluminum golf cart trailer around to move deck chairs, hoses, brush, etc. It steers easier and the steering doesnt get all that play your old one got. I have a Craftsman 19HP, Model 917.20380 42 riding mower, purchased new in 2014. When it starts to fail figure out what you want to do differently next time. This is the "standard" transmission for lawn tractors with 42-50 inch decks and 18-20 inch rear tires. If everything looks good at this point take it to a mechanic you trust. Do narrower decks, e.g. Over the Husqvarna GT52XLS (equal price): It is only available in the same Kohler engine as the XT2. Youve done your research but the 25081 does not have any reviews up yet on Sears.com. Ariens makes some great equipment but in this case this Ariens lawn tractor is made a cheaply as possible so HD can pull you away from Craftsman and all the others. Its probably a T2 or smaller trans and Its designed for mowing lawns and little else. Turn Tight Automatic Riding Mower. You charge the mower using normal household current. To get the theirs so few machines into perspective. that I cannot use. My 30 year old Murray will pull the John Deere up the hill with no problem, but it is starting to suffer from sheet metal fatigue, etc. The biggest problem has been that owners are used to the old style gear drive transmissions and hydros so they expect this transmission to behave and sound in a certain way. Husqvarna Lawn Garden Tractors | 11 New Improved Models! Thread Starter #2 . You have to get above $5000 to get the K58 in an X500 Deere. Is the Ariens a belt drive or a hydrostatic? It is strong enough for your normal suburban lawn but not strong enough for hilly properties. Hi Paul; I have change the fluid 4 times now, using Castrol 5w50 each time. Hi Bob, I have one question to ask about the Lowes warranty and your tractor. Im looking at spending no more then 1699 and really dont want to spend the money and find out I have invested in junk. Yes, I feel you will kill it because pushing the BERCO is heavy. That's where I'm trying to figure out where the difference is between buying the transmission myself and swapping vs. the "upgrade kit" sold elsewhere at nearly $2k Be aware that even if you find a K66 at a reasonable price there are some additional parts that increase the price significantly. Keith. I then ordered another one from a different vendor who claimed his part was OEM supplied. I have about 4 acres, flat, not too many obstacles. The engine is still fine, but the transaxle seems to be shot makes a clunking noise, oozes goo, and wont go. It will not go up a hill. There are already commercial models that will mow all day long on a single charge. This tends to make the tractor jump when you left out the clutch and I have a lot of people complaining about how jerky this is. @Don, If you mow about 2 hours a week, 25 times a year. M. Mowertec Member. Could the transaxle handle it? To back up? They use and inline gear selector instead of the old H-pattern. This makes them harder to use when you have a lot of garden beds and landscape features to go around. It does not have cruise so you have to keep your foot on the pedal all the time when you are moving. It is supposed to have a locking Diff. It holds up well for lawn mowing and normal yard duties like pulling a yard cart, sweeper, snow blade, etc. Really makes me appreciate how great that Craftsman has been to us; unfortunately, it also now has me worried about using it as we have all these yearshence, my questions above . The transmission is causing all manner of problems and Husqvarna are less than enthusiastic to resolve it under warranty. So Im thinking about buying the Troy bill super bronco xp 50 for my 2 acre yard. Is John deer mite reliable than husqvarna which brand will last longer. How durable are the Husqvarna lgt54dxl transmissions? Im not crazy about the idea of having to stop every time I need to shift gears, but Im also not crazy about having to use my right hand (instead of my left foot) to control my speed. Are there any lawn tractors made today without the pedal drive? I dont have a good source for individual parts but here is a place to start General Trans Parts page. Hello Paul, we have a 2009 Toro lawn tractor. You have already done what I suggest. They are both good machines for flat lawns, no hills and pulling only light loads. The K66 has 1" axles compared to the 3/4" ones on the K46. Here is the tractor: 24HP 54 Complete Start Turn Tight Garden Tractor Non CA. Its the most popular transmission installed in lawn tractors. Adapting the larger K71 fan would require centering and drilling 3 holes on the K46 pulley. You cant turn the tractor with the diff locked. The K66 has 1" axles compared to the 3/4" ones on the K46. Both, Richie Tractor in Knoxville, AND Tuff Torq who makes the worthless hydrostatic transmission in the thing laughed at me for buying it. They will bend and give in places where aluminum will crack and steel will bend and not spring back (and get a memory). Lynden Wa So, Im not even interested in finding that out. Telephone 1-866-572-3441 Email: customerservice@tufftorq.com. If the blades you have are shortertheres your problem. With the local dealer you get faster service, usually better deals and a lot of expertise. The Ariens uses a Tuff Torq TRANSAXLE, T2-CDBE-5X1A-18C1, The 28884 uses a variable speed drive and the 28851 Craftsman uses the tried and true K46 Tuff Torq trans. Out of the blue the deck stopped engaging, the PTO switch popped out. The correct bagger is the Craftsman 19A30003799 4246 2-Bin Bagger. 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I am pretty sure Cub Cadet has a better warranty program. The most common transmission for lawn tractors today is an internal pump and motor drive systemcalled the hydrostatic transmission. 2011 Husqvarna MZ6128ZT at Sears! The current X300 series John Deeres cost considerably more than the Husqvarna, Cub Cadet and Craftsman Garden tractors. Now we come to the K66 upgrade. is doing the same as before. The fabricated deck is stronger than conventional decks and takes a beating well. Hey Paul I have asked questions about my '09 Exccellerator before and from what I understand it has a hydrogear G730 trans. Hi Randy, I cant recommend using a tiller behind the lawn tractors. The pedal on the left side of the tractor is the parking brake. Any point in splitting it open to clean the magnets and filters? They will be glad to help you. Looks like they could be the element rs800 as theres no selector gear just petals.. And theyre not hydro.. Any idea? About Paul Sikkema I will always recommend a pedal control Hydrostatic Transmission over a manual or an automatic for the new kid. Great article interesting and informative. Thank you for your comment. I tried to find out the difference between the 20HP through 25HP Kohler 7000 series (KT715-KT740) engines and have been unable to identify a difference except for the carb. Check out the parts diagram here: Model #247255870 Craftsman lawn, tractor transmission. Craftsman 20407 48 24 HP V-Twin Briggs & Stratton with TurnTight Garden Tractor.. At what RPM does the transaxle operate? Lets see if we can sort them all out. Perhaps buy a used Deere. muskogee,ok 74401 where can I find part for cvt trans that plastic part on top of trans/cam configuration controls forward an reverse ? Only spending $1699 wont get you anything capable of the tasks you mention. It takes some practice to start and stop a manual transmission tractor. Models like the ZT-3100 and the ZT-3400 will have upgraded axles and bearings and will be better suited for long hours of commercial use. The guys who race lawn tractors do this with MANUAL transmissions. That must raise a few eyebrows ! https://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/cubcadet/lawn-and-garden-tractors/xt2/lx42 K46: Simple basic model; K57: Installs a charge pump to the K46 for higher HST efficiency and longer life; K58: Premium model with higher load capacity from K57; Models for heavy-load. So Paul, having read probably 100 comments and your replys, would I be correct in saying that you would recommend the Craftsman 20391 with a CVT transmission over the Pro Series 20442 with the K46? I dont want to spend $2,500 or more for a garden tractor with a K58 or better hydrostatic transmission. Hello Paul. John Deere L-Series (L110, L111, L118, 120, L13. B.C. The foot pedals seem well positioned and easy to use, great seat too! Please make sure the drives (transmissions) and engine are good before you buy one. Hey Paul, Im looking to buy a new lawn tractor and Im looking at the Craftsman they sell at Lowes. This will be a great alternative to the gas powered lawn tractor. It has the 20 inch rear tires. Cub Cadet has two that will work for you. I have also been looking at Husqvarnas website to try to compare models, but Husqvarna doesnt list any specs on the transmissions. If not, which transmission does it use, and what are your thoughts about that transmission. Electrics are coming and I feel in the next 5 years you will see affordable homeowner versions. Any opinion appreciated since I have spent hours among hours researching and basically cant find any reliable consistent information that is helping me make up my mind. Hi Scott, The electronic limited slip on the Cub Cadet and Husqvarna has good points and bad points. Hi Randy, If you want a gear drive you have to go to a sub-compact nowadays. One last thing. Which One Is This? I am looking at the Ariens 42in. Can you recommend a good mower , Im on a small budget but need one I can use on like I said a level small yard no hard cutting just it has to carry me. It also has the K46. Cub Cadet Hauler | There are cheap yard carts, good carts and just plain junk. To get a John Deere with a transmission heavy enough to pull all the equipment you have you will have to go up to the Z500 series Deeres. There should be less than 1/4 inch difference in height. The XT3 series. This kind of differential will "lock" the left and right axles together so that they rotate as a single axle. The way the RS 800 is designed it actually has a lot more torque available to the rear wheels. In addition there are a bunch powered of landscaping items like top dressers and aerators that are using it. Can I swap the trans between these two with slight modifications and put the Toro trans under the Saber? If you find the transmission yourself off of ebay or someplace similar and do the work yourself you can usually get the project done for half that. If I remember correctly they then jump to the K72 on the X700 series. The specs look good. Im not sure about the reliability of the website. If it is still working and you have an appropriate property and tasks for it, keep using it. Will I have the same problem in the future? Do you prefer them over the Tuff Torqs? @Mark, From what I can tell you are looking at the Model # 960460054 Ariens and either the 28884 or 28851 Craftsman. Take it back! Thanks Paul! I noticed that my transaxle was starting to growl & whine and wasn't operating up to standard especially going uphill. Took it to Lowes and they said that the ext warranty did not cover this defect, I was told that I could spend $930 to replace the trans and the rear axle, but I dont think it is worth doing. I will report back. Then crawl under the Toro and check it out. I now have enough info to make a purchasing decision here. Thanks Paul. Ariens warranty states to contact Home Depot for the parts and HD has no clue on what to do. What do you think. These transmissions are sized to the mower application so a lawn tractor trans is designed for mowing and light hauling. IHT Transaxle series K (K46, K57, K58, K62, K66, K72)Hydraulic Equipments,Transmissions and Marine GearsProductsKanzaki Kokyukoki Mfg. This power unit has all the features and performance of much larger and more expensive transaxles, all at a very affordable cost and in a small and purpose-focused design. GT is very willing to get it up and working correctly: TROUBLESHOOTING RS800. I have about 3 acres. I have been hearing of almost no instances of problems now. The last time I let my lawn get out of control (an area with 1ft+ tall grass) I was still able to mow at top speed without bogging down, so it would just consume more gas by putting the larger carb on and running at the same RPM to maintain same speed. Please Help! Not planning on using a tractor for ground type equipment, but possibly for carts, etc for a large flat open lawn. erick. Is the k58 is weaker than k66 ? Also, if not the Poulan Pro, is there anything else you would recommend as a suitable replacement for the old Craftsman. The garden tractor and estate tractor hydrostatic transmissions are heavier and built to handle heavy loads and ground engaging attachments. It has the fender speed control also as you mentioned earlier which is the way Im going thanks to you. Based on this the est to repair was $932; and Lowes told me the ext warranty only covers normal wear and tear: for the price I paid for the ext warranty I surely thought it would cover something like a bad transmission. There are already commercial models that will mow all day long on a single charge. When you press on the left pedal it releases tension on the transmission drive belt. You need a lawn tractor with the heavy duty transmission. Hi Jerry, Both transmissions are the toughest you can find in the $3000-$6000 price range. How much to rebuild or if you have a rebuilt one how much? Which One Is Best For You? Hitch looks like it has never been used. My husband changed but still no luck. They didnt break but they were hard to use. on the CVT transmission from G.T. It is as bulletproof as your old 6 speed and is the standard trans for garden tractors. I assume using a yard seep weekly, hauling 300-400 Lbs now and then in a wagon is ok? If youve ever driven a stick shift or seen someone do it, you have the basic picture. Yup, Tuff Torq went from a 10w30 to a 5w50 synthetic recommendation. Just looking on the net which suggests the trans will only last 400-600 hrs. Hi Eric, The RS 800 has a differential in the transmission just like your car. Craftsman uses it in the 20401 tractor and the new 2015 Pro series. Add a direction reversing lever in the control rod. Cub Cadet is using it on all of the 2015 Enduro series and Troy-Bilt lawn tractors. You cant mow that fast but you can zip around the yard doing other chores faster than the K66. My parents have a slightly older Saber by John Deere, but the hydrostatic Trans needs to be rebuild. I do not care for the decks that are cut away on top for a discharge chute . How as a consumer would I know if a machine has a light or heavy duty cvt auto transmission? That means at least new wheels and tires and probably hubs. Your tractor does not have a clutch. 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