The Speer Grand Slam is one that interests me. calibers and bullet weights, it is suitable for all CXP2 and CXP3 game. Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. Lol it doesn't matter,,, try to buy either one of them right now. Many shooters use the Grand Slam for long-range shooting and for hunting. Try finding them cheaper on nosler sps. .300 WSM 150 Speer Grand Slam, 165 Nosler Partition Nothing on the .270 Win, .270 WSM or .30-06 Tom Reply. Nor am I one of them. You must log in or register to reply here. I have switched to newer bullets(Accubonds) (Speer Deep Curls) etc. New ones are just to hard and don't kill as well also no matter what I tried they won't shoot better than 2 Moa. Want a great practice/plains game bullet for your .375 H&H or .375 Ruger? reduces penetration. I have no experience with current production grand slams. values, it gives a useable trajectory and retains plenty of energy out to sane distances. One bullet that was great but is not offered anymore is the 140 gr Speer Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. I was gonna say that MD, is that a "local" problem or part of the ATK master plan ?? Dont waste your money! driven directly into the heart/lung area of game like red stag and elk, but may that's really my big gripe. Go figure. I plan on using the AB for most of my hunting this fall. . $86.49. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The current version is really no different, IMHO, than the less expensive Speer Mag Tips. These bullets are wonderfully affordable, with a box of 50 ranging from $15 to $27, and are available in many of the common diameters and weights. The Sierra GameKing and ProHunter boattail and flat base, respectivelyhave a good, thick jacket, and give good expansion and penetration. You don't need my opinion to know they are good bullets. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Caliber Mine looks like 4.4 on my non digital calipers. tail bullets of conventional construction (not bonded core) in the marketplace. The extra weight and sharpness also make them more likely to expand, which can cause more damage to a target. Varmints are small pests and include such species as gophers, Last year he got a bull moose one shot and it was done. selection runs from .243-.338" at this writing and will probably expand. I think they're a wonderful bullet if you can hit what you're aiming at. Copyright 2012 by Chuck Hawks. apparently figured this out, returning the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw to the Most were behind the shoulder with complete penetration. original Grand Slam's two section lead core of different hardness's has been (ATK owns both Speer and Federal.) Well keep us updated with what Speer says, didn't they discontinue the 120gr hotcor recently too. Get 3100fps and your damn near unbeatable are reasonable ranges. The grandslam is a rather blunt tipped cup and core bullet with a thicker jacket. My dad still has a 1970s-vintage box of .30-caliber, 180-grain MatchKings, with maybe 40 left, that hed reach for when a hunting rifle showed accuracy problems. Oh and by the way Corporate wants the rollout plan and new slicks by Tuesday. Rocky Mountain elk or general African plains game, place multiple demands on and the lubrication used to insert the core in the jacket. Does Proto make bonded bullets? Nosler Partition starting at $35 Sportsman's Warehouse. I have the CD set (JB's publisher is a very persuasive guy. In addition, the Remington Core-Lokts price point is certainly attractive, and thats been a great selling point over the years. Vernon Speer was a pioneer in the component bullet industry. "Hard" bullets intended for Class 3 game may not achieve quick kills Comparing that jacket to the thick one in the GS, I suspect it may provide for a little more splash in the big lungs of some animals. For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. Is it a great choice for heavyweights such as brown bear and bison? Their "heavy game bullets" are now all Trophy Bonded. The polar and Alaskan brown bears are the world's largest predators. The rapid expansion of the Boat Tail delivers quick kills on medium size animals, such as pronghorn antelope and whitetail deer. on the far side has delivered what I consider ideal performance for achieving . The Grand Slams I have were made in the early 80's so I'm assuming they are the old style, they shoot around 1" in about all calibers for me with several powders. Its suitable for nearly all game animals that are hunted with soft-point (expanding) bullets, including feral hogs, pronghorn, elk, moose, bear and even Cape buffalo. My buddy has used speer gland slams in 175 out of his 7mm rem mag for years on moose and always had great success and when come bullets have been revovered they are probably 70 % weight retention? Speer have been very good for all deer and hogs a few bear. All rights reserved. Nosler decided to build a bullet that couldnt failand he did so. FILTERS $ $ .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets at LG Outdoors.243 / 6mm Caliber Reloading Bullets .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets can be used to reload .243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, .243 WSSM, .240 Weatherby Magnum, 6mm PPC, .244 H&H magnum and other cartridges . But these were 285-grain bullets at moderate velocity. The Speer Grand Slam Expansion Velocity is a unique round that is designed for maximum velocity and expansion. All rights reserved. The bullet features a copper jacket that is bonded to the lead core and a hollow point design that provides for maximum expansion. The grand slam bullet is expensive for the technology. I much prefered the Grand Slams to Partitions, until the bean counters at Speer wrecked them -- Speer is basically calling a totally different bullet the "Grand Slam" and defrauding the shooting public. (Fusion for Class 4 bison in .416 Rigby. Hornaday InterLock starting at $30 Optics Planet. Mar 12, 2023. https://www.shootersproshop.com/catalog ategory/2/, https://www.shootersproshop.com/loading -50ct.html. The few recovered bullets retained thier weight and expanded well. They are made with a thicker jacket and a heavier core than traditional bullets, and they have a sharp nose that helps them penetrate deep into targets. Partitions and the A frames don't fail to perform up close or way out there. I've been very successful with Accubonds, but these 145 gr Hot-Cors are giving me groups of 5 at <1" and there is just something cool about using them versus the ever popular (for good reason) Accubond. You could quickly become a fan. I have a box or 2 that I haven't started working with so if they are discontinued I'd be willing to give up. FLAT SHIPPING! The reason I ask is I got four boxes of the 250 gr. The Speer Grand Slam is an overlooked choice in a market saturated with good designs. range, thus the Boat Tail is made with a thinner jacket than a Hot-Cor bullet never seen much point in competing with your own product line and ATK has Nosler: Ballistic Tip-Varmint, BT Lead Free, Varmageddon, Speer: TNT, Varmint Hollow Point and Varmint Soft Point, Winchester: Ballistic Silvertip-Varmint, Hollow Point and Pointed Soft Point, Winchester: Deer Season XP, Soft Point, Ballistic Silvertip, Power Point and Power Max Bonded, Hornady: FTX, InterLock, Monoflex and InterBond, Nosler: AccuBond, AccuBond LR and Partition, Remington: Core-Lokt and Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded, Winchester: AccuBond CT, Power Core, PowerMax Bonded and Power Point, Federal: Trophy Bonded Tip and Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Hornady: Interlock, Monoflex, SP-RP InterLock, InterBond and GMX, Nosler: AccuBond, AccuBond LR, E-Tip and Partition, Federal: Trophy Bonded Bear Claw and Trophy Bonded Sledgehammer Solid, Swift: A-Frame Heavy Rifle and Break-Away Solids. It was a valid question, because the pouring rain had stopped, the wind had died down, and those little, black demons had risen from the heather. The Federal brand as Federal's premium bullet and leaving the Grand Slam as Speer's Were undeniably living in the golden age of projectile design, with more choices available to us than weve ever had. I had good luck with the old Grand Slams, before they were cheapened, I mean, redesigned. I've had midway do that on a few products over the years that were back-ordered that eventually came back into stock. It looks like I'm fresh out fo the AGS and the regular GS I have (285gr) are in the solid yellow box so must be pretty old. Hornady max variance was 0.006" variance, compared to 140g Nosler Partition at 0.001". plated jacket, resulting in what Speer describes as an electro-chemical bond. A good part of the reason is marketing. Mag and 150s in 30-06 and 308. Hornady, Swift, Remington and others. Look to the 285-grain Speer Grand Slam. The the quickest kills of medium size animals. World's most popular community & resource for hunting in Africa since 2007. $131.95. Bristol. Back then I used a .375 H&H Mag using 285 gr Grand Slams because Nosler for some reason stopped making their Partitions in .375 at that time. While that point might be debatable now, in the years before World War II, the Core-Lokt quickly earned a solid reputation for reliability. I have tried to load partitions in several calibers and find accuracy below 1.5" is a struggle. The 4th one strings out about an inch, but I hope I never need that one! experienced hunters around the world. This has turned into a pretty interesting read.I've never ahd trouble accuracy wise, with PT's or the Grand Slams.I've just never killed anything with the GS, but have killed plenty with Partitions.I'll proabaly stick with PTs for this fall, just in case an elk does show up, but I think I'm gonna try the Grand Slams on deer at some point.Thanks for the info. Core-Lokt bullet, which is available in numerous calibers and bullet weights One of Vernon Speer's last accomplishments was the Hot-Cor The Sierra BlitzKing and Hornady V-Max are popular examples 156. 300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data. The round is ideal for hunting or self-defense situations where maximum expansion is desired. OK, enough of that rant. With its tapered, precision-drawn jacket and long nose, the rifle is designed to penetrate deeply and precisely, making it ideal for hunting anywhere in the world, regardless of the weather conditions. I came to the conclusion that the reason they used a conventional bullet was simply because it worked perfectly for the job at hand. You have entered an incorrect email address! and other large game weighing in excess of 300 pounds live weight. A interlock and partition are not trying to do the same thing. ------------------To be old and wise..first you have to be young and stupid! His concept of using a partition of jacket material between two lead cores (the front core would mushroom, and the rear core would drive deeply into the vitals) remains a staple to this day. The grand slam managed to penetrate through both shoulders of a Zebra standing broadside amd keep on going. The result is less expansion, higher retained weight and deeper the 120 grain Grand Slam would be an appropriate bullet choice. Then go with the acceptable charge and try shrinking the OAL a little(.05"-.015") to see if it improves accuracy. Caliber and bullet weight figures into the design of all hunting bullets. Interlock, or cup and core = deer of about all sizes, partition = bear or something thick enough to require more penetration than expansion. Been up and down the powder scale with both IMR4831 and H4350. ------------------Victory through superior firepower! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 145 gr Speer Grand Slam by comparison produced its maximum cavitation at a shallower depth and caused a narrower hole at its terminus. The Nosler Partition is a fantastic bullet; and, although it's virtually unchanged from the original 1948 design, it still gives high weight retention, wide expansion and deep penetration from nearly any angle, just as John desired. 210 Grain. Never recovered a bullet, all full penetration with decent sized exit, from 50 yds to 400. For a while the Grand Slam was challenged within the Speer Weight retention, however, is even higher than the Grand Slam, typically about I went from the NP's in my 7mm Rem Mag. Class 3 game includes such species as wild boar, red stag, elk, moose, kudu, eland, oryx The Winchester Power Point, Sierra There is no definitive answer to this question as it depends on individual preferences and opinions. lead tip and performs as such, making it a good general purpose bullet. The 168-grain, .308-inch-diameter, boat-tail, hollow-point MatchKing, especially when loaded in the .308 Winchester, remains a major player. Speer's parent company ATK also owns Fusion, so that makes perfect sense. I much prefered the Grand Slams to Partitions, until the bean counters at Speer wrecked them -- Speer is basically calling a totally different bullet the "Grand Slam" and defrauding the shooting public. Speer Grand Slam Hornady Interbond I'm not one of you, Skippy. The fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide shows that 59.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive one of their 130 grain bullets to a MV of 3051 fps, and 63.0 grains of the same powder will give a 130 grain bullet a MV of 3294 fps. The win was 270 with 150/140 gr. 190 Grain. . Testing the question if the 70GR Nosler Varmageddons are expanding properly after many reported "Pass through" kills. Got a good deal so basically shot them of for the Brass. at the same impact velocity, the Boat Tail will provide more expansion, which For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In researching the speer grand slam vs the nosler partition it seemed that the GS was a bit tougher than the nosler. The 13-degree boat tail gives The Accubond was the end product of Nosler trying to get a bullet as accurate as their to be as reliable/tough as their Partitions. (2002-2003 I'd guess). Surely one of you guys has Rifle and Handloader back issues all categorically bindered and crossreferenced for easy access. SAAMI length. The bullet had penetrated from chest all the way through smashing the right hip ball socket before coming to rest just under the hide. As such, it is more expensive than the other Speer bullets. Grand Slam has a crimping cannelure, which also helps to hold jacket and core It seems like speer has been reducing their lines without coming out with anything new for awhile. Here's the advertising blurb from their web page: sounds like they dropped the 416 & 458. correct me on this: weren't there two GS (the "African" which included solids and the "regular" in smaller calibers)? It is bonded because the components are joined by a hardened molecular structure that is bonded. for a wide variety of game animals. Used recent production Speer Grand Slam and they are no better than a standard cup & core. Dcouvrez nos Balles autres calibres TXRG au meilleur prix : super promotions, petites annonces et ventes aux enchres, paiement en 3 ou 4 fois sans frais. including spitzer, semi-spitzer, flat point and round nose. The Nosler abandoned in favor of a monolithic lead alloy core injected into a gilding The result is better I bought a couple boxes of .358 250 gr SP bullets direct from Speer last fall and had them in a week. Actually, I kind of forgot this bullet, a 145 7mm from a 7-08: SPEER Grand Slam Premium Big Game Rifle Bullets. its a "partitioned" bullet similar to the Nosler partition and swift a-frame. identical to the process that creates the bullets used in Fusion factory loads. If youre hunting bears on a budget with your .308 or .30-06, 165- or 180-grain Grand Slam engenders all sorts of confidence. looking at the expansion pics in the 02 catalog (obviously two very different bullets the NAGS & AGS) I'm wondering if I did not think of the AGS when I thought of GS and rated the new ones erroniously. The Nosler Partition expands as quickly as any hunting bullet. The Nosler partitions are OK, the Swift A-Frames are much better than the Nosler partitions. Lewiston manufactures our products in a small city in Idaho, and we have an unrivaled reputation for quality. results should tell you what bullet your rifle prefers. here I found my 2002 speer catalog: it says "the AGS starts with a solid bar of guilding metal to for a massive jacket that is twice as thick as our North American Grand Slams" "A stop shoulder is machined" " multilock serrations". I could not get good accuracy with Speer Grand Slams. Bullets for such game require deep penetration in a straight line in order to reach the vitals after piercing very thick hide, layers of heavy muscle and (often) breaking massive bones. 200 Grain. The original design used two lead cores of differing hardness in order to mitigate overly rapid expansion. Odd thing is, I placed the core back in the jacket and pressed it together, it stayed! On Mule Deer I use the Nosler 165 BT Ballistic Tip with the same load I use for the Barns and they are right there EVERY TIME. 6.5 Creedmoor 142gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. I like the Grand Slam as a black bear bullet at closer ranges (say, inside 250 yards), because its strong enough to break bones yet soft enough to expand reliably on lung shots. I have a small supply of the 250 grain 358 GS that I will be loading in my BLR in 358 Winchester for an upcoming trip to Africa. After your rifle/scope I agree. Now I am loading the current .277/150 gr. seek. bullets, started making bullets during World War II using spent .22 rimfire also improved accuracy. past, perhaps this could be considered the most basic in a series on the Speer Grand Slam starting at $20 Optics Planet. A 130 grain bullet out of a 270 Win is certainly mule deer capable and will suffice for elk provided you dont try and break through the shoulder. No matter the powder charge groups range anywhere from 2-4 at 100 yards. I recall the GS placed in the middle of the pack. Similarly, the versatile Nosler Partition bullet is a perfectly look foreward to hearing the results of your search. All I use are the NP's out of my 30-06, 7-08 and 25-06. Impact velocity is typically lower at long Like the other major bullet manufacturers in the U.S., where deer hunting rules, most Speer hunting bullets are designed with deer hunting in mind, or at least as a consideration. metal jacket cup at 900-degrees F via the Hot-Cor process. I bought 6 of the transparent yellow boxes (grand slams) to work a load for that hunt. This is kind of disappointing as I just worked up loads in my .257 Roberts Ackley Improved using it last fall. Harry mac Well-Known Member. pre-formed lead core used by most bullet makers. flagship bullet. What are your experiences, good or bad, with the Nosler Partition or the Speer Grand Slam bullets on big game? Speer offers four lines of big game hunting bullets in a variety of styles and weights for almost all calibers, and they are priced right. I've read on multiple sites the 200gr Nosler Partition is the best for . The Deep Curl technology sounds I have tried to load partitions in several calibers and find accuracy below 1.5" is a struggle. ------------------My wife told me if I buy another gun she would leave me.I hope the door does not hit her on the way out!!!!! This category includes such creatures as North American bison, water buffalo, Cape buffalo, hippo, rhino and elephant. A I was gonna say that MD, is that a "local" problem or part of the ATK master plan ?? From what i understand, the Speer GS is just a beefier Nosler partition. Tipsy Tuesday: Elk Film, Gear, News, & More. are offered in diameters from .257-.458" and with various nose profiles, My 7-08 R25 actaully shoots the 150-160 gr bullets better with 4831 than the 4350. The ELD-X bullet is a technologically advanced, match accurate, ALL-RANGE hunting bullet featuring highest-in-class ballistic coefficients and consistent, controlled expansion at ALL practical hunting. From coyotes to crows they were accurate and nothing moved after. I have literally shot hundreds of these into my test media, not even one failure. retention in ballistic gelatin testing is claimed to be 70-75%. 160 & 175 grain 7mm (.284) Bullets - Speer bonded + Sierras, OtoPro SoundGear Phantom and Impulse Review, Vortex Razor HD 4000 GB Rangefinder Review, Toric UHD 2.5-15x44mm FFP Hunt Series Riflescope Review, Hunting Big Mule Deer after Mid-October with Cliff Gray. There are some classic designsthose our grandfathers usedthat are still viable choices and that remain highly useful and affordable options for the hunter and shooter. I just haven't bumped into or tracked one down yet. When pulling it out, it looked like the perfect mushroom but the core fell out! The beauty is its simplicity, and I like the fact that Remington still offers a bunch of round-nosed choices for those of us who spend most of our time inside 150 yards or so. They are best hunted with frangible bullets 2) 7mm 160 grain Partition 47 count - $30 shipped to conusa. 45% thicker than Hot-Cor jackets with internal flutes at the nose to facilitate He just fell back on his butt and keeled over dead. So many better bullets out there now though and now I dont really factor cost of a box of bullets into my decision. price and performance. The Mag Tip is the SAME jacket as the Grand Slam, but has a one piece Hot Core poured in it. this bullet a higher ballistic coefficient (BC) than a flat base bullet, making For the I like to buy Speer's, and every year it seems they have the promo that they will send you card for 20% when you purchase over $100, they are already the least expensive bullets to buy and that deal make them very hard to pass up. You are far better of with conventional soft points - Sierra SP Flat Base (Pro Hunter) 165 gr. Accurate and DEADLY in my experience. Its a simple design, with few revisions from the late-19th-century jacketed bullets. I took my first few deer with the contents of the green-and-yellow box of 170-grain Core-Lokt .30-30 Winchester ammo, so it has a special place in my hunting memories. Oct 20, 2010. I am trying to compare the two in terms of other hunter's experiences regarding accuracy and terminal performance on deer, moose and elk. game and yet typically retain a substantial percentage of core for deep There are many bullets offered to hunters that are I went back to my Nosler Partitions, but I think the grand slams are decent bullets. Back then I was buying powder by the pound can, primers by the 100 box and bullets a box at a time. Remingtons mushroom was among the first controlled-expansion designs, with a copper jacketwhich gets thicker at the baselocked into the lead core by means of a cannelure. Speer Grand Slam. I started reloading over 45 years ago with Speer bullets, before the introduction of Hot-Cor, Boat Tail, Grand Slam and Deep Curl, and I still use them. Funny thing is, I still used 160 Partitions on that hunt. 4 Classic Hunting Bullets To Fill Your Tag, 5 Things You Must Know About Concealed Carry Insurance, Bowling Pin Shootings High-Powered Renaissance. I recently bought some boxes of the Grand Slams off Midway, mostly due to price. expansion than Speer's premium Grand Slam, with consequently less penetration. Last edited: Apr 24, 2021. Continuous development led to the 1977 release of the InterLock bullet, a rework of the 1965 InnerGroove bullet, but with a cannelure that locks together the lead core and copper jacket. The load we provide to civilians for personal protection is simply unparalleled. the grand slam is a whale of a bullet - it performs way over its paygrade. Winchester Power Point, Hornady InterLock and similar bullets in terms of both In the post-World War II boom, three partners gathered in a Quonset hut and developed a bullet that would set the shooting world on its ear. Re: Nosler Partition or Speer Grand Slam Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Nevertheless, throughout the industry, the Sierra MatchKing still represents the benchmark by which all other match bullets are measured. Once you determine the Pouring molten lead into the pre-formed jacket provided an air- and oxidation-free bond between the jacket and core. Frankly, there are better choices for that job, but the Core-Lokt is one helluva deer bullet. The grand slam bullet is expensive for the technology. Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. The Nosler Partition is unique in that it has a partition between the lead core and the copper jacket. For elk- accubond, or partition for similar price range. Have always worked great. Shooting dry news print is a pretty hard test IME. When using these bullets in a magnum cartridge, I do prefer a healthy amount of bullet weight to prevent premature breakup, but Ill certainly attest to dozens of whitetails that fell to a 165-grain Hornady InterLock from my .308 Winchester. it more suitable for long range use. My rifle didn't shoot them very good, but killed several animals with them. Particulary if you expect 100- 200 yards distances. Ill be loading A Frames in my 8mm magnum. 150 Grand Slam 145 ELD-X 140 A-Frame 140 Partition 140 TSX 140 Accubond 130 Partition 130 TTSX 130 A-Frame All the above bullets will do what you need them to do without any drama. 165 - 168 Grain. 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