Joined Nov 11, 2020 Posts 6,023 Location Alabama. B.s. March 12, 2021 in NFA Market Board. The conversion consist of a beautiful alloriginal HK-SP89 Date Code (KD) with a New B&T 3-Lug PDW Barrel Factory Threaded in the Popular 1/2X28 with a Thread-Protector, Semi-Auto Bolt Carrier Modified for Full-Auto, Combat/Flapper Magazine Release, New German HK"K" Grip, New German HK PDW Folding Stock Marked HK, Receiver RemarkedMP5-N. Of course that is not going to be his story. . However, because he also had a stock, the pistol would have to be registered as a short-barreled rifle, PRIOR to purchasing or possessing the shoulder stock and/or vertical grip. So, why would you think that drug dealers have rights that should NOT be infringed? Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. This information has been redacted in accordance with Title 18 U.S. Code 798. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Will come with 2 HK 30 round IJ date coded magazines in an HK magazine clamp. Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 916310108. :biggrin: Tony Complete with three extra magazines and one unopened 100 round C-Mag drum magazine for the HK MP5 with black carrying pouch. - Indoor/Outdoor Range Implementation; and Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. You can often find me posting on several internet forums, including Subguns, Uzitalk, AR15, and PAFOA. Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms, HK accessories, HK history and trivia and more. This forearm comes standard with SP89's. Similar to the MP5K, but without a foregrip and an extended shroud. This item can be shipped to United States. Feedback: 5 / 0 / 0. Has not been shot in years, just gun and one mag, no box or anything. The grip is excellent with some light scratches overall. Was owned by dudes father previously. Made in Germany by Heckler & Koch. 277 Location South shore Sep 13, 2021 #1/14 Here is a rare piece I'm looking to trade from my collection is a mint unfired H&k sp89 date coded with KA stamped from sterling West Virginia, gun comes with original shipping box the pistol was shipped in, styrofoam box , all manuals and warranty cards, 1 15rd dated mag. Well Peter, lets start with drugs are illegal and guns are NOT! HK pistols use a two letter date code to identify the year of manufacture. Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members The item "HK H&K HECKLER KOCH MP5 SP89 SP 89 SP-89 PARTS KIT UNFIRED" is in sale since Sunday, September 29, 2019. There is no easy answer, as it will depend on a number of factors. Use of the new SP5K as a short barreled rifle host will require you to use some U.S. made parts to be legal. Were the implications of that decision more narrow than that or is the DOJ just ignoring it? He would not even talk to me when i requested to speak to him yet he was more than eager to talk when a signed order from the judge went on their desk when it came to retrieval of property. The thirty round magazines that are in some of the photos are not included or available. William, please email me: wcNObrowning@hotSPAMmail.com. The side of the receiver is marked "Made In W Germany, H&K Inc., Sterling VA." The top of the receiver is marked "HK, SP 89", serial number and the Ulm factory proofmark and an "KA" date stamp. Mr. Amador posted the following on the FloridaGunTrader website. Please don't IM / PM. March 12, 2021 in NFA Market Board Share 1 Absolutely Mint Example - Only Test Fired 2-3 Mags Includes both FA clipped & pinned lower (no trigger pack) & the original SP89 Semi Lower Housing (with semi trigger pack) 9mm Caliber Includes a 15rd HK Magazine Registered as an SBR (short barreled rifle) On Form 3 in NC. Being a Gunsmith Pros and Cons of this Popular Profession. Unfortunately I am unable to find any online evidence of this cases ultimate disposition. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. This low recoil pistol uses the proven delayed roller locked bolt system common to many HK firearms. There is no definitive answer on that scenario. Even if the user installed the unregistered DIAS in a semi-auto AR15 the rifle would only function semi automatically unless a M16 (hammer, trigger, selector and disconnector) fire control components were installed as well. Following in my father's footsteps, I am also a Board member for the Pottstown Police Athletic League (PAL). http://www.facebook.com/TeufelshundTactical. AGG. I also hold PA Firearms Law classes for local ranges to inform the public on the firearm laws of the Commonwealth. I have my 07/02 licenses so I put the proper pack in it and have never been sorry about the expense. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Even if its not installed? Not sure of round count. Pennsylvanias Marijuana Legislation How Many Bills Are Now Up inSmoke? 1 -15 rd magazine 2 -30 rd magazines 1 Loader 1 Magazine coupler, all items are HK factory and in mint condition. NES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***, (SOLD) PreBan Pre Ban HK H&K USP9 Pistol Chambered in 9mm, Unfired Glock 19 Gen 4 with Trijicon HD NS - SPF. Prince Law Offices, P.C. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The letter will correspond with the number. IANAL, but based on my understanding of the Thompson Center case, he might have been OK had he had a 16+ Barrel also since he could have then constructed a legal rifle (with foregrip and stock). NFA and Constructive Possession: Myth or Reality? Funny part is i knew about 90% that he was a cop. why is this so differently named? Its in the original box with foam and manual. All this work was done ty Terry Dyer. what does the '89' stand for? The pistol is still marked as an SP89. If anyone with serial numbers between 21-13593 and 21-13678 on their SP89's, please advise me if the top receiver is marked "HK SP 89" (early), or "HK SP89" (later)!!! The atf needs to be dismantled. Midwest Industries Handguard, Fits HK SP89 and Clones, M-Lok Compatible, Mil-Spec Top Rail, Black Finish MI-SP89M. I understand we want what we want! Posts: 15,713 . View all posts by Joshua Prince, Esq. I think thw sheriff of that county should have arrested the Atf agents for violating that mans 2nd amendment rights. Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 916310108 Buy Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban: GunBroker is . This is not how free men are treated. While at Widener Law School, I was a member of the Widener Law Journal. RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. You are using an out of date browser. FICG Files Complaint and Motion for Preliminary Injunction Challenging ATFs Final Rule onBumpstocks. So, if I owned a H&k sp89 I could not own but not install a forgrip without the $5 tax stamp? The receiver was refinished in HK Black and the Barrel, Magazine Release & Bolt Carrier received a New Phosphate finish. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***. Aug 15, 2020 (Edited) Have a mint condition first year IK SP89. George from Alaska, several pre86s including some Mp5s, other NFA post sample machine guns, bunch of suppressors, 07/02. On August 27, 2009, Jesus Amador, Jr., was arrested by an undercover officer when he sought to sell his Heckler and Koch SP89 pistol. A video showing what to look for when buying real hk mp5 magazines. This list contains all firearms that could be confused for an MP5 by the average person. On August 27, 2009, Jesus Amador, Jr., was arrested by an undercover officer when he sought to sell his Heckler and Koch SP89 pistol. Have a mint condition first year IK SP89. Discrepancies: - incorrect end cap (HJ)--- should be (JA) - replacement forend--- no date code, and circular pattern on forward oval on the left. With our 2nd Amendment rights being attacked at both the Federal and State level, and the ATF (Burea of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives) trying to close down FFLs (Federal Firearms Licensees) for minor infractions while making FFLs the scapegoat when the ATF's records are inaccurate, I want to take this opportunity to introduce myself. You must log in or register to reply here. At the federal and state levels for individuals, I actively defend the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution and Section 21 of the PA Constitution, as well as, help individuals with: Asking $5200. Please email me: wcNObrowning@hotSPAMmail.com, Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members It was an offer I couldn't refuse but my bank account protested so used my good ole credit card no wonder my credit score has dropped! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! With the success of the . Law requiring the removal of ice and snow from car to be voted on by Pennsylvania Senate andHouse. In following my love for firearms and firearms law, I have taught several Continuing Legal Education (CLE) seminars on Firearms in Estates and Trusts and Firearms Law 101 for several Bar Associations, including Berks, Cumberland, and Dauphin Counties. Thats what i figured , i was hoping around 5k. Mr. Amadors pistol, stock and vertical grip, on the other hand, could not have been assembled in any way that did not create a SBR or AOW. I am looking at buying this P9s, by this pix would you assume it was made in 1973? Like the model numbering scheme, the date codes are a 2 letter code and indicate the year of manufacture: Therefore, if your HK91 shows a date code of IH, it was made in 1987. HK Firearms Non-Proofed Parts/Magazines Date Codes. You must log in or register to reply here. - Warning Letters and Hearings; is asking $700obo and I know that's is high. Both guns and drugs can hurt people, but buying, selling, or using either in a way that doesnt harm another innocent person shouldnt be a problem in a free country. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. With this pre-ban SP89, you can make it an all German short barreled rifle. The government may establish constructive possession by demonstrating that the defendant exercised ownership, dominion or control over the premises in which the contraband is concealed. With this pre-ban SP89, you can make it an all German short barreled rifle. What is a HECKLER KOCH SP89 Pistol Worth? I also planned and taught several Firearms in Estates CLE classes for the Pennsylvania Bar Institute (PBI). Includes manual, warranty card, original box, and all the magazines pictured. OR should i sbr it and register a suppressor for it and take it to the lee county police range instead of selling it? Also the cutout the case was orobably foe a MP5 which would have to cutout and a SP89 will fit in it. Or does constructive possession only apply to loose parts laying around, not parts of other firearms? Tony will chime in here shortly. Mr. Amador even posted pictures of his mugshot and more telling, a picture of the SP89 with all accessories in a case. - 42 USC 1983 Actions for Deprivation of Civil Rights The seller is "321kustom" and is located in Long Beach, California. Philadelphia City Council Moves to Decriminalize Possession of Small Amounts of Marijuana!!! They have been available a few times now and each time I decided not to buy them for a number of reasons. US v. Turnbough, 1997 U.S. App. No HK since is as complex and crafted. By It is way too easy to violate if you are not careful, especially when you include constructive possession., Such BS. There are arguments both ways. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. July 17, 2022 in Semi-Auto Market Board, I have for sale a very good condition HK SP89 KA date code with the pulse beam laser. Well Chris Carlson, we dont appreciate our rights being infringed, so Why do you think we should have laws where cops should be busting drug dealers? It may not display this or other websites correctly. It may not display this or other websites correctly. A - 0 B - 1 C - 2 D - 3 E - 4 F - 5 G - 6 H - 7 I - 8 K - 9 If the stock and grip were kept at his home residence, and the gun were kept at his work or somewhere else so that the able to be assembled parts were at two separate locations, would this avoid the constructive possession problem? I know you are looking for a trade. eh if your al capone and cant get you for murder they might try. Payment by USPS Money Orders is also acceptable. Manufactured in 1990. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. If you want an all German MP5K PDW host short barrel rifle, this is what you need to do it. Pulled Over??? The MP5 is derived from the HK G3 rifle that is chambered in 308. The receiver housing has a proprietary claw-rail mounting system that permits the attachment of a standard Heckler & Koch quick-detachable scope mount (also used with the G3, HK33 and G3SG/1 ). Effect of Death on a Divorce: Can the Spouse take under the Decedents Will or is the SpouseLimited? This is an HK SP89 Pistol, date code KA, with an OEM K-N barrel with tri-lug and standard threads. COVID-19 and Workers Compensation: What Happens if Im Exposed atWork? HK SP89. Add at least two items to compare. If ATF Comes A Knocking, Only Surrender Your 80% Frame or Receiver Under Protest. PAY ATTENTION !!! It probably had the grip and the stock on it. JavaScript is disabled. SP89 Forearm. He was probably selling it for heroin and not cash. SF, James Heckler and Koch Certified Armorer (Heckler and Koch) But, one can legally sell an H&K SP89, so what's the twist? You are using an out of date browser. Trigger Groups 0-1. 01-08-2012, 10:22 AM gunsmithcats. For a picture of the case with the SP89 and accessories, see here. Senior Member : Join Date: Nov 2005. So they marked them SP89 after they imported them? LEXIS 11886, *6. The receiver was refinished in HK Black and the Barrel, Magazine Release & Bolt Carrier received a New Phosphate finish. But, one can legally sell an H&K SP89, so whats the twist? What can i say i am a public servant i push and push against these stupid make shift laws so others dont have to. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. so much for his 30+ man 2 week investigation on the matter. The Second Amendment: Enforcing the HellerDecision. Without the longer barrel, the only thing he could make from all the parts was an SBR and for that reason it is illegal. JavaScript is disabled. My business partners wanted ATF 4473 (5300.9) Part 1 a few weeks ago and were made aware of a document management site that hosts an online forms library . Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! With that said, I just purchased a date coded (1991) HK SP89. You are using an out of date browser. Here's a link to an online gallery of pictures: Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members. Use of the new SP5K as a short barreled rifle host will require you to use some U.S. made parts to be legal. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I often wonder how the ATF could hold the opinion that a person who owns a semi-auto AR15, along with a post 86 DIAS (drop in auto sear) would be in possession of a unregistered machine gun. It will be easy to turn it back into the pistol it was when I bought it if I ever give up my license or die well, I guess my son's will convert it back if I die. Email me at wcNObrowning@hotSPAMmail.com . - Estate Planning Advice; Pennsylvania Police DO NOT Need a Warrant to Search Your Vehicle!!!! Is an estate entitled to an economicstimulus, Child Custody - What parents should know in a nutshell. Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms, HK accessories, HK history and trivia and more. Anyone out there that would like to help in this matter not because of me, but because if you are SICK and tired off all these power hungry cops screwing with your right feel free to contact me at (239)961-4208 if you want to read the liberal BS version on how it happend google Jesus Amador Lee County. but was worth every penny to me. Scarce Original Pre-Ban Heckler & Koch SP89 Semi-Automatic Pistol Auction Date: May 6, 2017 Estimated Price: $ 3,750 - $ 5,500 Price Realized: Details Scarce Original Pre-Ban Heckler & Koch SP89 Semi-Automatic Pistol Manufacturer: Heckler & Koch Model: Sp89 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9x19mm Barrel: 4 1/2 inch round Finish: black Grip: plastic Stock: - Gun/NFA Trusts; and A HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol is currently worth an average price of $2,962.31 new . 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