Ben: Jims right. He was always attracted to these subjects for which there was no easy answer. He demanded that political systems be watched, and that German people needed to be monitored due to their "personality type", which he claimed results in the conditions that give rise to the dictatorial power of an authoritarian overlord. Ben: But the Canadian and US governments could take accountability for their support of Cameron. I then *went through* the papers, because I felt that it would be improper to leave in the papers any paper that identified patients. And I think it affected a lot more people than anybody even realizes today. Those with anxieties or insecurities and who had trouble with the state of the world were labelled as "the weak"; in Cameron's analysis, they could not cope with life and had to be isolated from society by "the strong". Thank you! Then we brought them down I think it was probably during one of my infrequent jaunts up there I brought them down in my car, and I then took them over and deposited them at the American Psychiatric Association. And he didn't achieve that either. That would have been the cultural environment in which people like Sidney Gottlieb grew up. He died of a heart attack while climbing a mountain in the Adirondacks in 1967. Ben: The manual was all about how to obtain information from quote resistant sources. It went on to become the basis for the Phoenix Program during the Vietnam War. In 2012, Cameron said he would be prepared to publish the details of his tax returns. Ben: Duncan Cameron was 10 years old when his dad became the Director of the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal. He was a Progressive Conservative member in the Legislative Assembly of Ontario from 1963 until 1967 in the riding of Wentworth and then from 1971 to 1975 in the riding of Wentworth North. [citation needed]. All Germans on trial would be assessed according to the likeliness for committing the crime. Cameron began to abandon the Freudian unconscious in favour of a social constructivist's view of mental illness. When Walter John Cameron was born on 7 March 1884, in Dummer, Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, his father, Donald Ewen Cameron, was 32 and his mother, Sophia Jennet Fife, was 31. We want to hear from you! Marian Read: So for me, the importance of all of this is to get it out of the shadows of pulp fiction, you know Amory: This is Marian Read. He had a Mercedes. Cregg: What do you know about mind-control experiments? He also spent time working in PR at Carlton Communications before becoming an MP in 2001. After his treatments patients were unable to function; they had been reduced to a state of infancy. There was also Donald Hebb, who ran McGills psychology department at the time Cameron was running its psychiatry department. It is at this juncture that he became interested with how he could effectively manipulate the brain to control and understand the processes of memory. He clearly had his mind set on doing unorthodox research long before the Agency front started to fund him. Dear Supporter of Freedom, Autonomy and the Right to Voluntary Informed Consent! Audience Relations, CBC P.O. Amory: The answer might be in the idea of brainwashing itself. It is a priority for CBC to create products that are accessible to all in Canada including people with visual, hearing, motor and cognitive challenges. [22], During the 1950s and 1960s, Cameron became involved in what has later become known as the MKUltra mind control program, which was covertly sponsored by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)[6] and which eventually led to the publication of the KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation manual. If we can succeed in inventing means of changing their attitudes and beliefs, we shall find ourselves in possession of measures which, if wisely used, may be employed in freeing ourselves from their attitudes and beliefs in other fields which have greatly contributed to the instability of our period by their propensity for holding up progress, In Cameron's book Life is For Living, published in 1948, he expressed a concern for the German race in general. [38], Cameron died of a heart attack while hiking with his son in the Adirondack Mountains on September 8, 1967.[39]. [34], Naomi Klein states in her book The Shock Doctrine that Cameron's research and his contribution to MKUltra were not about mind control and brainwashing, but "to design a scientifically based system for extracting information from 'resistant sources.' Kinzer: If Cameron had failed to find an effective means of mind control despite carrying out the most reckless experiments, in which he was willing to take any kind of a grotesque step in an effort to find that key, this must have helped feed Gottlieb's conclusion that the whole thing didn't exist. In his analysis, culture and society played a crucial role in the ability for one to function according to the demands necessary for human survival. About 55 families of victims who underwent medical experimentation in the 1950s and 1960s are suing for millions of dollars. My recollection was that I wasn't able to provide him with much information that he didn't already have. The Department of Justice says it is reviewing the court's latest decision. Advertisement. Heres journalist John Marks. He continued his training in the United States under Meyer at the Phipps Clinic, Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland from 1926 to 1928 with a Henderson Research Scholarship. Duncan: I started work at the State Department just a day or so before Kennedy was assassinated. That was just something we wanted to get clarification on. And these are pictures of him, these are both in the Adirondack Mountains. Amory: Were bringing you the last installment of our special series: Madness The secret mission for mind control and the people who paid the price. [1] In papers published during this time he linked RNA to memory. Amory: This is from The Adirondack Daily Enterprise, is the name of the paper. This third type needs, This page was last edited on 19 March 2023, at 10:26. Despite considerable misgivings, Lochiel's support for Prince Charles Edward Stuart proved pivotal in the early stages of the 1745 Jacobite Rising. He died in 1966, at the age of 82. So we dont have access to Cameron's thoughts on his own legacy. You can try, The 1963 "Kubark Counterintelligence Interrogation" manual, "CIA's Secret Brainwashing Experiment" (1984), "Brainwashed: The Secret CIA Experiments in Canada" (2017), Jim Turner and Joseph Rauh's lawsuit debrief: "Anatomy Of A Public Interest Case Against The CIA,", Send us a direct message on Reddit. The FBI's FOIA Library contains many files of public interest and historical value. And he was searching for ways of doing something about them. There's my father and my mother. [13], In 1945, Cameron, Nolan D. C. Lewis and Dr Paul L. Schroeder, colonel and psychiatrist, University College of Illinois, were invited to the Nuremberg trials for a psychiatric evaluation of Rudolf Hess. Amory: Author Stephen Kinzer, who wrote the book about the CIA and Mind Control, says, after Vietnam, this same literature got used elsewhere. Donald Ewen Cameron was born in Bridge of Allan, Scotland, the oldest son of a Presbyterian minister. Here, the Guardian sets out how the Camerons made a fortune from inherited wealth and family companies. [33] The son of one of Cameron's patients noted in a memoir that other than Ed Broadbent and Svend Robinson, no Canadian MP brought up the issue in the House of Parliament. At least, until after Cameron left the Allan. It petered out in the early 60s as the programs director, Sidney Gottlieb, came to a realization. Dr. Ewen Cameron wanted to win a Nobel Prize for his work in psychiatry. What Hebb and Cameron both have in common is their contribution in establishing the scientific foundation for CIAs two-stage psychological torture method. And you see this actual physical manual on how to break down the human mind. Amory: And I think you may have given a deposition for that. All. So we don't have. Ben: But we also asked about something else, that he was a little uncomfortable talking about: Orlikow vs. United States, the 1980s lawsuit that ended up giving $750,000 total to 8 of Camerons victims. Amory: Theres a reason that all the photos of Ewen Cameron are from more than 50 years ago. He promoted a philosophy where chaos could be prevented by removing the weak from society. Ben: As for the CIAs MK-ULTRA program itself, it never had an official end date. Amory: He doesnt explicitly say that he was the one who did the destroying. Ben: The main takeaway here is Duncan admitting that he did remove documents pertaining to specific patients, before giving his dads papers to the archives. Cameron's experiments at McGill were numbered MKULTRA subproject 68, which gives you an idea just how many other subgroups tested . Rauh: --Well, I will put it another way. Just as Sigrid Schultz stated in Germany will try it again, Cameron fostered a fear for Germans and their genetic determination. And I think you have, as much as love that you had for him you also had respect for him. The psychiatric community could have questioned his methods, but they remained silent. [23][24] He is unrelated to another CIA psychiatrist, Alan S. Cameron, who helped pioneer psychological profiling of world leaders during the 1970s and was not associated with the behavioral modification research program. Lawyer Alan Stein says thelawsuit, seeking about $1 millionper family on top of legal costs "to compensate them for their [physical and emotional]loss," can now move ahead. Amory: Nearly everyone who experienced Camerons treatments first-hand has since died. He received an M.B., Ch.B. You know, my job was to look out for the cops. It affected a lot of people. But the government agency backing his experiments at the Allan did find a way to make use of his methods. And he always had a little book of science fiction by the bedside. It is a rare thing that a psychiatrist of his worldwide reputation and capacity should be a resource available to a small mountain community. Camerons current register of interests also includes the familys Edwardian terrace house in North Kensington. Cameron began his training in psychiatry at the Glasgow Royal Mental Hospital in 1925. So I think in a certain way they believed that what fiction writers could come up with, somebody could actually make real. Cameron began to explore how industrial conditions could satisfy the population through work and what kind of person or worker is best suited to industrial conditions. Duncan: Well, I didnt destroy the documents. In the final installment ofMadness," we sit down with Duncan, and we explore the shocking ways his father's methods are still being used today. ], and great-grandfather of John Cameron (1771-1815) [qv.]. Duncan: They got close to the top and James looked around and my father had passed away. Cameron Cemetery. "I believe I suffered as a child, even though I love my mother.". Ben: But some key documentation of Camerons time at the Allan is straight up missing. Those who are privileged to know him, even briefly, will not soon forget the warmth and kindliness of this understanding man.. And I recall going through them and *taking out* several papers that appeared to me to be identified or could be identified as dealing with a particular patient. In the late 1940s, Cameron presented his ideas in a lecture entitled Dangerous Men and Women. [8] Smythson was acquired in April 2005 by a consortium of City grandees, including members of the Fleming banking family. Like Freud, Cameron maintained that the family was the nucleus of social behavior and anxieties later in life were spawned during childhood. Ben: Today we grapple with Dr. Ewen Camerons legacy. So why havent they? Other similar psychiatric diagnoses of Germany were published during this time. Sign up and be the first to find out the latest news and articles about what's going on in the medical field. Now rented out, the property was reported earlier this year to be worth more than 3.5m. He had at least 2 sons with Fynvola Margaret MacDonald. Today, we're talking to one of the only people who will stand up for Dr. Cameron. Hes in his mid-80s now. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron did experiments so horrifying he's been called "Scotland's Mengele." Here's why MKUltra's top brainwashing scientist was a nightmare. The Tarbert estate is owned by Ginge Manor House, an offshore company named after the Astors home in Oxfordshire. Cameron began to develop broader theories of society, new concepts of human relations to replace concepts he deemed dangerous and outdated. Donald Cameron of Lochiel (c.1700 - October 1748), was an influential Highland Clan Chief known for his magnanimous and gallant nature. Heres John Marks again. The paper stated that German culture and its people would have offspring bound to become a threat to world peace in 30 years. And he admits that the papers he removed are now destroyed. Duncan: Not really, I certainly don't know anything about the treatments he was using, I didnt know anything about that. In a statement to CBC News, the MUHC said Cameronacted independently and was not considered by law to be an employee of the Royal Victoria Hospital. Joseph Rauh (from the transcript): But as far as you know now, neither you nor your brother or sister or mother have *any* papers left that are not sort of public documents? Mission Statement. A possessive type, filled with jealousy and demanding utmost loyalty. But we do have his son, Duncan Cameron. Donald Hebb and Ewen Cameron were competitors; they did not collaborate, though Cameron incorporated Hebb's sensory isolation techniques into his own diabolical arsenal of psychiatry's instruments of torture. Duncan: Well, that's a big subject. Finally, while the person is in isolated confinement, in LSD altered states of consciousness, and deprived of sensory stimulation, adequate food, water, and oxygen, the subject would be bombarded by psychic driving by use of a football helmet clamped to the head with taped messages played for hours non-stop up to a half-million times, messages such as my mother hates me. (McCoy, 2007). Amory: Ben and I are in an apartment in Washington D.C. thats bursting with morning light and books, and were flipping through some of our hosts old family photos. Dr. Ewen Cameron wanted to win a Nobel Prize for his work in psychiatry. They had four children; a daughter and three sons. And we would take off. Amory: They bounced around between foster homes and orphanages for years, experienced emotional and physical abuse. Amory: Duncan struggles dealing with his dads legacy because he cant speak to why his dad did what he did. Ben: Robert Cleghorn, a former member of Camerons staff, took over after Cameron stepped down. David Cameron and his wife Samantha on holiday in Lanzarote. [31][2] In her book, In the Sleep Room: The Story of the CIA Brainwashing Experiments in Canada,[32] author Anne Collins explored the history of Cameron and Montreal's Allan Memorial Institute. By literally wiping the minds of his subjects clean by depatterning and then trying to program in new behavior, Cameron carried the process known as brainwashing to its logical extreme., The dehumanizing nature of his methods were published in premier medical journals without any complaints from other psychiatrists; Cameron read papers about depatterning with electroshock before meetings of his fellow psychiatrists; and they rewarded him, electing him president of the American, Canadian, and World Psychiatric Associations. Duncan: I mean, it's very different than the caricature that you sometimes read in the press. At first, No10 said it was a private affair a knockback that provoked even further scrutiny of his familys wealth and how it was earned. Ex-husband of Enid Agnes Maud Watson. 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