This keeps everything you pick up contained in the bucket. Love your videos; especially the service and upgrade ones. Thanks again for your help. You are using an out of date browser. Either way your update comment at the top presented me with the thought to make my comment by your statement of as you likely know by now. I was refering to how would we likely know by now? Keep up the good work. And finally Im not sure why you even answered his question because you didnt give a definitive answer at all! Hi Tim, I just want to be sure I order the same equipment you brought through Artillian.
I had no idea that anyone lived inside Glacier National Park. Its well built. Electronically controlled Hydraulic 3rd function kit. If you click that, you will get notified every time with post a video. Also, remembering your episode where you were moving the sidewalk, the longer tines should allow me to get further under the slab and raise it in a more horizontal position. The clips on the pins for the cylinders that control the movable arms had a tendency to pop off. Im just saying that the shorter tines on the EA grapple would have a bit more leverage because they are short and closer to the loader arms (and tractor). %PDF-1.7 I just got back from picking up my pallet forks and frame from Artillian. /L 1521296 I agree Tim. All I know is at http://www.artillian.com/Grapple.htm If you click on the grapple-rack-grapple image to add to cart, it says $3,047.00. I used your discount code and spent some time talking to Greg, the owner. I like Longs bucket because it is relatively light weight and opens really wide. 0000000017 00000 n /Size 341 Plus Ive been looking at the root grapple from http://www.roorgrapple.com. It is not expecting force to be directly applied to it. Paired with the thumb grapple. As I said, a minor problem that was easily fixed. With the longer lower tines, I think I can slip them under the root and use the weight of the tractor to break them loose. It may be a week or more before we get the grapple action video(s) out. In my opinion he made a good choice . It probably wouldnt be the right thing to put on a 40 hp tractor but I wouldnt want a 500 pound grapple hanging off the front of my little 23 hp tractor, you wouldnt be able to pick anything up! I ordered a GC1723E and the dealer told me they'd but a WR Long 3rd function on it but let me know yesterday that it only works for the GC1723EB (backhoe version) because the hydraulics are different. They are a great company to deal with and, initially, I am impressed with the quality of the frame and forks. I believe that might be the solution for powering your grapple when the finance committee finally approves it.
Keep up the good work. Under-built. I still like it. I only needed my wifes help twice! There is an extended piece of the BC-4200 which goes under the loader boom. Ive got the Artillian setup on my 2305 and it rocks. Wow. I believed I was keeping an eye on new information that was coming up on your website. Im showing $1,215 for the BC 3000 and $1,459 for the BC 4200. /O 289 It has worked well so far. $1,163 retail including shipping. (Perhaps I should add it to the roundup so that these points would be discussed.). One quick questionI would like to remove the mowers mechanical lift frame for the winter. For the rest of this article we will focus on grapples specifically designed for sub-compact tractors. Maybe someday! Trust me when I say that you will be happy that you did. http://www.everythingattachments.com/Tractor-Root-Grapples-s/10568.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5J0H0GikWQ, Single Point Connector for Deere Subcompact Tractors 1025r & 1023e, Kubota BX vs. Deere 1025R Round #1 3 Point Hitch, The Original Tractor Cab Co. (and Tractor Umbrellas), Mower Blades for 54D and 60D mowers (1023e, 1025r, and 1026r), Deere 54D/60D Mid Mount Mower Belt Replacement, 1023E/1025R/1026R/2025R Service Supplies Quick Links, John Deere 260B Backhoe for 1-Series Tractors. It seems like a great option. And Im sure everybody except for you second guesses himself sometimes as to whether or not they made the right decision. Your site is a tremendous asset to the JD 1 series community and I applaud you for your efforts. And the open cylinders are better protected and have a better looking hinge point. - Page 3. The Precision grapple has either 1 or 2 independent clamps, the CTA grapple has a 1/2 width single clamp, and the Artillian has 1,2, or 3 independent clamps. Hello Tim, Love your site and I find it very informative. Its 40 miles up a dirt road on the Northwest corner of the park. We have a wide viewership on YouTube, with over 11 million views at this point. I purchased the Harbor freight hydraulic cart and slide it under the tractor to drop the frame onto. Obviously he hasnt tried the grapple out since he doesnt have the third function installed yet. Tue 3pm Eastern Time ,and Friday 3pm Eastern Time. The 50 grapple is priced at $1500 + shipping, and the 55 is priced at $1625 + shipping. Check it out and let me know what you find out. Lighter-weight than a similarly configured Artillian setup, super-strong, and would do a great job of raking debris and sifting through the dirt for roots. I bought my 4105 tractor used. They specialize in grapples, snow plows and pushers, etc. Something like Artillian diverter kit install. I will follow up in the spring with the grapple. 0000001552 00000 n It came with a John Deere backhoe and loader. Be sure to check your tractor for the loader bucket attachment mechanism, and follow-up with your dealer with questions. By the way, I do have the quick attach mower system, and I love it. Sure makes it easier to do the job. 0000003556 00000 n The single clamping model weighs just 241 lbs. With your adoption of additional grapples since 2017, are you going to update this blog? Another thing is I had more to say in my most recent comment about the grapple issue in the south which would make them readily available at dealers but the only thing you commented on was your confusion to my comment and if you rubbed me the wrong way. CT can provide these close outs, or you can use 1/2 all-thread, or 1/2 steel rods. This section weighs 40 lbs, and is much more cost effective than the clamp section. I decided to go with the Compact Tractor Attachments (www.ctattachments.com) and couldnt be happier. A common example of a hydraulic control valve is the loader valve on a tractor. As much pressure that is seen in that area in normal bucket operation it could be a future area for cracking. I am torn between the three grapples listed, and could see good reasons to buy each of them. Id love to be able to try it, or see an expert try it. 1. Weight is a huge factor when youre mounting it on a sub compact tractor and the land pride is one of the lightest grapples out there which in my opinion would go perfectly with his tractor. Thanks and God Bless. What more could one ask for. Any reason you went for the diverter instead of the dedicated third function kit? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think you can buy Titan forks and grapple bucket cheaper than the Artillan set up and not have to remove the forks from the frame to slide on the grapple sections. Hi Tim, I hope this the correct place to put this comment/question. They have a light weight grapple suitable for my 40 HP John Deere for right around $1000, much less than most of the other grapples on the market. The Mini 322 Grapple Rake is constructed of 1/4 AR400 steel. /S 358 Would love to visit. Yes I have distance and lots of area to clear to consider. But I ma sure if I had one, Id be wondering why I didnt get one sooner.. Tough choices. My thought is what would make you any more qualified other than a website? The chat worked well, but it was confusing due to 800 coverage and bad voicemail for those numbers.They are limited for dealers in south east. Both of them developed leaks, perhaps because of not being used for so long. Almost all viewers/commenters on this website are subscribers to our YouTube channel. I enjoyed your two grapple videos so far and look forward to the video you promised showing the actual use of the grapple. But this will never happen for the BC 4200 with the attitude coming from the Big dealers that dominate the south and believe weight is an issue and a grapple isnt something for the 1025R. On the negative side, the componetized approach adds a bit of weight to the most natural configuration (2 rakes plus one clamp) with this solution coming in at 243 lbs, with the optimal configuration (2 clamps, one rake) weighing in at 293lb. I havent heard much mention of the Frontier grapple. The south is the untapped market for the 4200. Commercial financing provided or arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873. Have you done this and do you have a video that shows what needs to be done to remove the mechanical lift frame. Assets aged 10-15 years or more may require increased finance charges. We have been to Glacier and Waterton. 0000609676 00000 n I like that this unit uses the John Deere Quick Attach system, so you can easily switch from your bucket to this and back to the bucket with a minimum of fuss. The biggest deterrent to me is the cost of the hydraulics. I would also like to have more forks to pick up smaller items. I like the product but since I cant see it in person its not likely going to happen. Hey Tim, I really enjoy your videos/articles! << It still costs $1050. Anyway, none of that is importantwhen compared to this storm. It works off John Deere FEL without modification and costs $1213 dollars plus shipping. However, the Titan is too much compromise in lift capacity for me. I too want one but dont really need one.
Im sorry Ive set you off. are you noticing that it shows $1000 shipping until you enter your zip code? Doesnt JD know that owners are going to modify the tractor to fit the needs of the operator?
So your article was good but my thought was not to consider the weight of the attachment which would reduce the weight capacity. However, if you have an issue with your air cleaner bracket, they will not reject it because you installed accessory lighting. %%EOF If this works, I suspect it would resolve my concerns. /T 1515428 Goofy setup, I admit, but once I entered zip-code, it dropped the shipping to a more reasonable amount.
I think JD is just trying to get you to buy JD parts only for extravagant outrageous prices. Add functionality to your tractor with a 3rd function kit, this will allow you to use attachments like grapples, and many other functions. Also, I have published two videos showing the Artillian has provided a grapple. If I get a new 1725MB ill be doing the same to it. I made four ramps out of 2 x 4s laid flat and crisscrossed. We had produced two videos about the grapple, so the update saying by now you probably know should probably have been stated as if you have been keeping up with our YouTube channel you probably already know In any case, sorry about that. /Lang (en-US) 0000614336 00000 n Expect to take delivery on May 17th. Oh my!
Huh? > I wasnt aware of your youtube channel. So, in addition to the weight, price, etc, prospective buyers need to predict the types of projects they will encounter with their new grapple. One other thought. I saw one at the Farm Progress Show, and talked to a sales guy there. /PageMode /UseThumbs No, we live in the Northwest corner of Montana. There are holes in the lower tines which could contain close outs for smaller filtering for rocks, etc. If I add any thing to this TRACTOR, being lights, or a grapple, and tap into the hydraulics, and it is not a Deere part number or implement, my warranty on this new tractor is null and void. Now is a good time to grease those two impossible to get at engine driveshaft fitting that Tim recently did an excellent video on. I like the W. R. Long Ultra Jaw 2 4-in-1 bucket. 0000003081 00000 n equally unsure why you would only consider attachments sold by one particular dealer. For someone in your situation, it would mean you wouldnt have to choose between which item to take to a job, the bucket, the grapple or both.
This is apparently a very new release for the 1025R and it includes a replacement joystick knob with the third function switch built in. Why should it sell for the same price that I got my 2048 cutter?? Where the front pins mount there is a clevis attached to what looks like an elongated eye bolt. We have documented/proof of our effectiveness as marketers. 287 0 obj Overall a 38% reduction in lift capacity as compared to the rest of the grapples presented here. Its lots to consider but weight isnt my biggest concern. In April 2018 I took delivery of a JD 1025r. 0000615341 00000 n Lets round that down to 100 for calculation purposes. Guess Id be leaning to towards the Artillian. With a 450 lb grapple, one would have 250 lb of available lift capacity. As I mentioned, I am planning on getting the grapple sections to fit on the frame some time next spring. Id be surprised. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Wow. Maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more. Just tried my link to that I had posted on the first comment and it is broken sohumm.just use the: http://www.loaders.com and look for the BrushCrusher section of their website. Titan offers a 48 Root Grapple. Lots of money. Then remove the front pins and lower everything to the ground and slide it out. 0000002804 00000 n Press J to jump to the feed. Are you really willing to do that to save $300-$500??? The Titan Attachments grapple weighs 450 lbs!!!
The implement is great for my needs. Easiest to install. They have a 50 grapple made specifically for the JDQA system. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. I use it for picking up logs, and brush. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In both instances I was looking for an honest open dicussion.
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Copyright 2022 Sandhills Global | Reproduction without expressed written consent is forbidden. In addition to the 50 Deere specific grapple, CT offers a 55 version in both JDQA and SSQA versions. The ability to disassemble for winter storage is attractive as well. I bought the factory 3rd function with the tractor last year and installed it myself. Artillian provides a hydraulic manifold to support multiple cylinders if the user chooses to have multiple clamp sections.The rake section (left) consists of the lower rake tines only. Hope you find your needed answer. Each clamp section contains its own hydraulic cylinder and weighs 90 lbs. Dont forget W.R Long for bucket, grapple needs. The pair of additional hydraulic connectors is mounted out of the way on the right side of the tractor frame. 0000215312 00000 n
Assets aged 10-15 years or more may require increased finance charges. Artillian site lists the grapple-rake-grapple for $3k. Financing approval may require pledge of collateral as security. For a small tractor like yours, one of the nicest features is being able to open the bucket to dump the load without having to roll the bucket over. Im assuming (a very dangerous thing, incidentally) you have the quick disconnect deck. While Tim certainly doesnt need my help. I was just looking at the 1025R on the JD website. However, I would be concerned if using it aggressively on larger tractors where much more force can be applied. Consumer financing arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873 and state licenses listed at this link. Additionally, each of these grapples is made in the USA! I think the grapple itself is pretty heavy duty to be listed as their economy root grapple. Free shipping within 1,000 miles! I do remember a video you did for the third function valve installation. It goes crazy in the summer! Im thinking more like under a $1000 would be appropriate. This grapple might be useful on larger tractors, however, it is not a good fit for a sub-compact. I must say, for when I need, the 1025r is perfect. Not a scratch on it. If you are correct, and I believe you are (looking at other costing pages), then maybe Artillian might show a more complete item list in the cart? I have the same WR Long diverter that Cglaser has. A great guy and he understands how the small tractor user thinks. I have used that style of bucket on other loaders and there is a lot you can do with it. However, lets do some calculations to see how much impact this really has to the tractors useful lift capacity. 2016 John Deere 1025R - - - 50 hr Service cost comparison between dealer and DIY ?? I was considering the idea how much the loader has been moving and carrying stuff in a properly articulated position (lumber, tree branches, etc). Blessings, Dennis, [] Originally Posted by vila251 Any brand grapple better than the others? I have watched most of your videos but didnt know it was something to separately subscribe to. >>
Although shipped to me is just over $1500. It was really nice of Artillian to give that grapple to you. Has anyone else successfully put one on? Mine is the SGC0554. 0000606659 00000 n
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Hmmm, you may well be right Tim but, I was thinking in the exact opposite way. The 1-series Deere (and other sub-compact tractors) will lift approximately 600 lbs to full height with the standard bucket. Dont ever expect to use for excessive loads. No aftermarket of any kind. Make sense? 0000623715 00000 n
If you guys ever get out this way, please let me know and we will give you the cooks tour. Huge purchase there. Our park is Glacier National Park and the Canadians which adjoins ours is Waterton Park. Hi Tim. We are actually in between Glacier National Park and the Flathead National Forest. As for the grapple itselflighter is better. Thanks. Hope this helps. Best wishes for the New Year and I look forward to seeing more of your entire family on TTWT. Although I dont understand how the arms are independently controlled. Will the loads be uniform (suiting a single clamp), or un-even where a second clamp would be helpful? I had a problem with the seals on the backhoe stabilizer cylinders. These valves have power beyond Capability (Power Beyond Adapter Sleeve is required SKU: P40G-PB), as well as the ability to operate as a closed-center valve (Closed-Center Plug Required SKU: P40G-CC). This is a very nice feature. <<
It is made for smaller tractors, the bucket is not much heavier than a standard bucket and they make it with or without teeth with our John Deere style quick connect. What Did You Say? Photos show claws attaching directly to the hydraulic cylinder. Works well. However, when you purchase the grapple components, you almost have a set of pallet forks already included. You must log in or register to reply here. I can see your point. 0000623217 00000 n
Living 20 minutes from Worcester makes it even more attractive.. Jeff King will even do custom modifications for you if you want. Clearance issues could result with the front of the tractor as well with awkward larger and more difficult brush seeing that its pinned down by rotatating from the top. 0000003875 00000 n
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There are about 40 year round residents. With lift capacities of under 1000 lbs (to full height), we simply cannot afford to devote 400 lbs of that to the grapple attachment itself. My understanding is that the BC-4200 now offers a bar between them which will keep the two sides in sync. The other grapples in the roundup are around 200 lbs. Theres not a whole lot of videos other than the ones from John Deere (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5J0H0GikWQ). Because it requires getting down on the ground several times to do this, I have made a couple of thing that significantly make this chore easier for me. It is the AV20(F) model. Your response was well they havent sent one to me yet. Were you going to promote on a one to one sales pitch to prospective customers? I see $2097 for grapple-rake-grapple, then $549 for the frame. I wanted to mention this option in case any of your other readers are researching grapples. Very affordable. Hi Tim, this little grapple looks good but I dont see them using it on a 1025r. I stayed toasty warm in 35 below weather this winter. This explains the increased weight over the other solutions. Maybe I take the design, lay it out on cad and have someone cut the parts on a cnc laser machine. 0000607507 00000 n
Good point on the bar to keep the lower arms from moving independently. I looked at their unit, but I think I can buy a standalone grapple and standalone forks from Everything Attachments here in NC for about the same price as the Artillian system with the grapple add-on. There are thousands of these tractors out there. 0000213088 00000 n
Tim, I decided to buy a grapple from Carolina Attachments in Thomasville, NC. 0000003722 00000 n
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I have learned a lot from them. They do not list the frame, brush guard, or hydraulics in that price. That is likely what leads me to the grapple. The Precision Manufacturing Mini 322 Grapple Rake is well suited to the compact and sub-compact tractor market. Under-built to be stupid. 4. Dont screw the clevis up or down while you are doing this or you will have to re-level your deck when you reinstall everything. Remove all the spring pins and then, remove the pivot pins in the rear and allow the frame to rest on the ground. John will be put away for the storm in the brush tomorrow w/ attachments where there isnt larger trees. 
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