The only thing I dont like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida. I have had 2 Laguna motors where the centrifugal switches failed, resulting in the same issue you are seeing. Auto-cleaning of the HEPA filter is accomplished by double-paddles that sweep the filter every three minutes of system use in a clockwise and counterclockwise action. The X Flux 5 is geared towards fine dust and sanding where cyclones are not performing as well. I ordered at the beginning of this year and it was shipped much earlier than the estimated ship date posted on their website. This page was generated at 08:49 PM. Laguna or Jet. Woodturningit's not just a past time, it's all the time https://www.amazon.com/Oneida-Air-S=1&keywords=dust+deputy&qid=1601860867&sr=8-5, https://www.aawforum.org/community/media/users/gerald-lawrence.20956/. I have a Jet AFS 1000B mounted in the ceiling. There is literally thousands of hours on it and the only thing I've had to do was tighten the impeller bolts twice. JavaScript is disabled. I see a lot of guys using portable units as de facto stationary units, which is fine if that was your original intention. Been a while since I looked.
Especially since my log splitter took a dump, ordered a new one today. it's always something.. LOL. In my opinion, a cyclone separator is a must if you use the unit in any serious way. I have the 35 gal. - Its not that Im so smart, its just that I stay with problems longer. Albert Einstein. I called and talked to them, they said sounds like starter cap. Properly sized, you will only ever need one.
I have my barrel on the mobile stand so I can release the quick disconnect and drop the barrel to wheels free to recycle. Providing marketing, business, and financial consultancy for our creators and clients powered by our influencer platform, Allstars Indonesia (allstars.id). Started too small with dumb design and over time have something now that works. Decided on the Laguna, I move my stuff around alot and the Laguna looked beefier for that. CT-MIDI, C-18, RO-150, RO-90, OF-1010, OF-1400, MFK-700, MFK-700EQ/B, EHL-65, DTS-400, LS-130, MFT/3 (x4), MFT/Kapex (x3), KA 65 Conturo, endless Systainers. You want that one to do the job right out of the box.
You also don't see an impeller that size (15.8") on a 3 horse machine normally, I'd bet it moves more air than the competition. I have the Oneida Supercell (35 gallon) great machine with incredible suction. Laguna or Jet, https://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=XXPM010100H&CatId={B75F8739-54DE-47CA-A8FE-4FE9AEFDCC1C}, Quote from: bnaboatbuilder on November 09, 2017, 09:29 AM, Quote from: JLMS2010 on November 09, 2017, 11:34 AM, Quote from: mark60 on November 09, 2017, 08:34 PM, Quote from: JSlovic on November 09, 2017, 07:59 PM, http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/, Quote from: JBag09 on November 11, 2017, 07:39 PM, Quote from: Tom Gensmer on November 08, 2017, 09:13 PM, Quote from: JLMS2010 on November 12, 2017, 07:26 PM, Quote from: mwildt on November 12, 2017, 08:27 PM. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.
2022 Cruz Bay Publishing, Inc. an Active Interest Media company. Like others said - since the trash can gets the finer particles and packs it down it will be VERY heavy when it gets full.
For those with these nice dust collectors would you mind commenting on the capacity of the bin ? Looking at 115v, don't want to mess with 220 wiring again. Youre dust collector is in Coma Prison!! I have the 3 hp version of that older model and have been generally pleased with it. I was looking at some Jet and Laguna DCs earlier today, and the way my new shop will be set up I just couldnt decide if they would work. Last year I got the Dust Deputy 5" from Amazon. Not sure how you can get that much difference of CFM's out of a machine that look that similar?
What you do between those is up to you.
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Careful, don't smoke the motor windings. American motor and dust collection is all this company does.
I looked at it, decided I can due 2 screws without shorting myself out so we will see if that fixes it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
I agree with PackerGuy and EdL. I find that we tend to plan our needs for dust collectors a bit too "optimistic". Put collector back together, fired 'er up and she went to town, sucking up a storm. Capacitor(s) may be okay could also be the centrifugal switch. The C Flux models start at $1,999. After some reading, if I don't put in 220, I will get the Laguna Tools 1.5hp C/Flex:1.
Shiny/new is fun!! I would think if they can make any size they should be able to. Sounds like every thing else on the DC is good.
Apparently it was hard wired in a manner so that when it did trip, you couldn't reset it, or some electrical talk like that. (This post was last modified: 03-31-2018, 09:22 PM by, The "air flow" listedon the8" inlet is 4380 CFM, Once Favre hangs it up though, it years of cellar dwelling for the Pack. I have a G1029 that I bought in 1991, I've gone through multiple table saws and jointers but this is the one constant in my shop. Took the set up to an electrical shop because I thought it was the motor.
Looking at 115v, don't want to mess with 220 wiring again. I was trained in aircraft electronics, not elec. I can run the 220v if I need to. I would like a cyclone collector but open to other styles. With dust collectors to me it's Oneida or bust. I want the winner to be the quieter unit but I dont really have a way to determine that lol.
We undersize based on our needs. How fast do they get filled when planing or jointing ? I have been very happy with my Laguna Pflux Hepa 3hp. It is actually a "JDS" which uses a different color scheme (blue versus dark gry), I have the grizzly version and I like it, pretty sure most of these come out of the same factory, grizzly has decent customer service and parts availability so I want with them. Right before shutting down on me, she was vibrating pretty bad, bad enough it cracked the electronics box on motor in half.. wow, must have had a previous crack somewhere. It is 240V so you'll need to wire for it.
There's a relationship between the length of the cyclone cone and the percentage of dust the cyclone removes from the airstream. It has a new canister/filter, sure would be nice to not spend 2-3k for a new set-up. I only use it for one tool at a time and it's plenty for my Sawstop, bandsaw, and router table.
Yes, I'll keep that in mind. I'm not too concerned with the CFM. I'm sure I could find one for less, but that replacement cost is much more than I originally paid for this tool. It did take 220.
Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors.
Wife rides with me on the trike so her. comfort kinda takes preference for now.
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You are using an out of date browser. Other than them, I know of Clear View, and they got a lot of good reviews. Well, maybe after I fix hydraulics on one tractor, leak on another, then rewire a friends tractor, mow 3 acres covered in leaves, til those leaves/grass under in garden, butcher bout a dozen roosters, cut another load of firewood man it never ends.
It may not display this or other websites correctly. I almost pulled the trigger on 220v Oneida but backed off for now. As packerguy said, call Oneida.my 3hp Dust Ape was/is the BEST thing I've ever bought for my shop. I would say eventually I'll add those.
If the contracts don't open as the motor comes up to speed then you get the condition you described as "Motor at first would run up about half speed then pop the push button breaker". So far, so good. etc. Looking at a Laguna C/Flux:1 also.
I'll check that one out as well.
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That PM DC has some bells and whistles you don't see on other models (vacuum to hold the debris bag, and a pressure gauge) but that probably doesn't justify the price.
30gal is great plenty for lathe (only use for dust), tablesaw, bandsaw, mitersaw and even router table (not used for long periods). I ordered the C-Flux from the local Woodcraft. "Screen names" and "handles" are not allowed and your registration will be deleted if you don't use your real name. They said we don't have that one in stock but for $5 they will order it for me.
That's why the short-cone systems make a big point of having a built-in beater to help clean the filter. I bought the older 2HP white one earlier this year. Reviving this old post! If I end up running 220, it will be an Oneida I think but would really like to be able to use the 120v/20amp outlets I have.
Great company and customer support and they seems to have this cyclone thing down pat. It even includes free plans and drawings for making your own 2 stage cyclone dust collector. So I am looking for a new one. Baru,Kota Jakarta Selatan, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 12120. Another contender to consider is the Oneida Air Systems 1.5hp Mini Gorilla.
P Flux models start at $2,899. Back to making shavings! Kby. Took hoses off, opened up and discovered some bent vanes, straightened them up and still dead to the world. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Here's my comment on the bin size, when it comes time to lug it to the curb I'd rather tote 30 gallons of sawdust that 55 gallons, even if I have to tote twice as often.
Lots of folks will upgrade their systems, even cyclones. I purchase all lumber rough cut so I have a lot more chips to collect to get to finished size (I get much straighter stock this way).
I know.you just want a new shiny one! Also, do not use all caps nor all lower case. It is also quieter - and my wife will happily attest to that. This seems to only apply to the 3hp models and up.
If there is no centrifugal switch (unlikely) then it could be a current sensing relay and you would probably need help. Nope, did not hit it by accident LOL Tried to fire it back up nothing, not even a groan. Your username must be your real First and Last name (for example: John Doe). They will design your duct systems for you. If it does fix it, I'm still going to modify mine. Here are some supplies and tools we find essential in our everyday work around the shop. Regarding canister size. Got to it after lunch, changed out and plugged it in.
That is, more dust gets to the filter. Hope it does but for $5, gotta try. Although Festool strives for accuracy in the website material, the website may contain inaccuracies. They also have a redesigned three-piece drum construction that require far fewer joints and fasteners for reduced assembly time, as well as locking casters. I would get more stuff on me cleaning the bag than turning a bowl. I'm the only one who uses this, so it would most likely be just 1 tool at a time being used.
I have an Oneida Supercell with the 35 gallon drum and have been well pleased with it. You must log in or register to reply here. I prefer 220.but I can understand it can be expensive if you have to pay someone to install it. I often leave 2-4 gates open at the same time with the Oneida 3hp and it works great. All my other festool tools I'll have hooked up to the CT26e.
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Look again, the 4380 is FPS, not CFM.
I started with absolutely nothing.
What an amazing difference in dust capture as well as planer, jointer and router table debris. Now, thanks to years of hard work, careful planning, and perseverance, I find I still have most of it left.
Oneida Air introducesSupercell dust collector.
That's still probably not correct, but if more comparable to what the others indicate. Been using it hard for about 15 years now with no issues. I have a Grizzly that has been going strong for about 23 years. I do like inexpensive repairs but when it can be replaced for a couple more $$s, it's time. What does the planer mfg suggest?
Repair shop is 30ish miles from my place.
container and it's good for a couple hundred BF of lumber depending on how much stock your taking off. Undersizing will leave you frustrated, and not getting the results you had hoped for - chiefly, keeping the air cleaner for your health and keeping your shop space cleaner. Laguna Tools has added features to its C Flux and P Flux cyclone dust collectors and added a new model, the X Flux 5, a single-stage collector with a 39-gallon drum on locking castors.
This year I added their new noise baffle. The impeller blade was so out of balance that a local machine shop wouldn't even touch it to try to repair it, and he had to get it totally replaces.
Right now I have basically no dust collection setup and the dust is quite awful.
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I'm going to get getting a table saw around the same time. If I decide to put in 220, I will get the Oneida Supercell 55 gallon. I just got this in today and got it installed..pardon the pun, but it really sucks!
So, I guess next time it dies, I'll have my oneida fund built up. May be wrong its. Well, as good as a `20 yr old tool.
Even if a deal it's still a grand or a little more so I'm probably going to pass, as I don't get the "warm and fuzzies" on this one. For now, she's alive! I would like a cyclone collector but open to other styles. I have the same question. I was just looking at those, interesting. I know the DC will not collect all of the superfine dust at the tool, but the more you can keep out of your lungs the better. It is made in New York. Assistance hours:Monday Friday10 am to 6 pm, Jl. So for a while now I've been casually shopping for a dust collector to put into my shop, which is equal parts WW / auto. That would be a cheaper solution. Thats how I got mine, which BTW is an older Oneida unit. Bearing in mind that the ratings on them are under perfect, lab conditionsthat NEVER occur in the real world shop environment. I hate throw away tools. Motor shop quoted me $600 out the door for a replacement motor. Holy $!/&, lets wake it up and bust em out!!!
Thanks everybody! I bought the 1.5 P Flux last year during the black Friday sale and have been very happy with it. Short-cone designs like the Laguna extract less dust from the airstream than long-cone designs. Interesting thread. I almost pulled the trigger on 220v Oneida but backed off for now. A forum community dedicated to professional woodworkers and enthusiasts. but frankly afraid to mess with capacitors. All of these machines will be plenty for only using 1 tool at a time. I have searched for info on here about the Grizzly G0860, only found one thread with little info. I feel at these prices that should be included. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual.
I have the 3 hp Oneida and love it. We will see what happens when the time comes but I hope this repair last a while. Oneida has a new high pressure system that looks intriguing. Something to consider when comparing dust collectors is how much you anticipate moving it around your garage.
Grizzly jet and Powermatic are all made innthe same country I think.
Rockler had them on sale but after shipping it was only $20 more to order from the local store and I like to support local shops when I can.
I have searched for info on here about the Grizzly G0860, only found one thread with little info. Umm, maybe if the motor dies again, get a good motor to replace it. Hello everybody. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Spun like she was new.
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If you're looking to keep the cost down, do consider Grizzly.
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You might verify that the centrifugal switch contacts are closed for starting.
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They have some that are very small foot prints, and have flow ratings that you can trust. Duct design is incredibly important.
The difference is incredible. in the first 4 hours. Both were very very helpful. Had to take time off for family problems including a looooong trip but I digress.
#1 producer of sawdust in at least a 4 block radius of Lincoln, NE.
I'm sure they are having a hard time getting supplies just like every one else with the pandemic.
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https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/dust-collectors/cflux-1-5-hp-cyclone/, http://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/jcdc-1-5-cyclone-dust-collector-1-5hp-115v/717515, Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna offered a whole new machine or just the motor; I went for the latter (didn't want to disassemble the old one and ship) and it runs fine now. The Bitterness of Poor Quality Lingers Long after the Cheap Price is Forgotten!!!!! A while back I posted asking opinions about purchasing the 3HP Powermatic dust collector seen. I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps.
Lol, I've got the 110V predecessor of the Laguna cflux-. What is currently stopping me is the 35 gallon version is a 10 week wait, the 55 gallon version is a 4 week wait. Sisingamangaraja No.21,Kec. I had a 1 ag Powermatic that was OK but the Griz is bigger and twice as powerful. A good cyclone will collect 99+ percent of the chips and dust and dump it into a canister that is easy to carry and dump and that requires no cleaning. They were not around when I got my Oneida. I just bought one a few weeks ago and have been very happy with it. I want to turn-baby-turn! They show CFM at 1543. He had to drill out most of the holes on the frame because they didn't fit or line up. I figured, what do I have to loose, so I went for it.
Today while running it to collect dust at my workbench from sanding, it just stopped like I had turned the switch off. The $5 cap fix got me another 10 months use, well, a good hard use for 6 months. If this is your first visit, be sure to
If they say it takes alot to fix it or needs replaced, I will again look at a new cyclone. The garage is wired for 110, but I'll probably have to add another circuit. Is that the supercell?
Come winter, I might be able to go that high without sleeping in the dog-house. LOL. Hi, I am in the market for a dust collector and I have narrowed it down to the. There are other smaller units available but I wouldn't go any smaller than this, for future expansion. We exclusively manage 70+ of Indonesias top talent from multi verticals: entertainment, beauty, health, & comedy.
Had a friend who got one maybe 10 years ago.
Those that have them really like them.
Remote and LED drum light are standard..
I finally figured out how to deal with sawdust in my hair. https://www.canadianwoodworker.com/warget=LA015DCP, http://forum.canadianwoodworking.comlems-with-them. Many of the short-cone designs even have a motorized beater.
Kind of funny about the CFM's of the Powermatic and the Laguna as if you look at the pictures of the two units they look like the same machines except for a few cosmetic differences???? Thanks.
In fact, 15 or 20 gallons is a bit to haul. I have no experience with them, but Clear View is another DC system, and I am pretty sure they are made in USA. motors and it has been a looooooong time.
I had the large Delta dust collector for a lot of years when I did almost all flat work utilizing a table saw, 15" planer, 8" jointer, etc.
This article was originally published in the March 2022 issue. The all-new X Flux 5 boasts a powerful 5-hp motor and impressive 1,823 cfm, the company said in a statement. I still don't trust Grizzly. Curious, John..what died? I think they are a bit expensive for what they are, but everyone that has them seem to rave over them, Dust Collector for garage. Upgrades to the C Flux cyclone dust collectors include a dual-paddle filter cleaning design and a 46-gallon capacity on the C Flux 2 and 3 models. I was hoping to get some opinions on 2 dust collectors I'm looking at purchase for my garage. I know this is not a popular opinion among woodworkers. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All rights reserved. I've probably gone through more iterations on DC setups than anything else in my shop. Current systainer to productivity ratio: very high.
I find that 30 gallons of sawdust is already more than I want to lift. It will be in my garage.
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I hoping I can use the vast experience of the members to help with a dust collector choice. I added the pleated filter and that helped a lot . JavaScript is disabled.
We may receive a commission from sales referred by our links; however, we have carefully selected these products for their usefulness and quality. yeah, I've done some research the last few days and initially my impression was Laguna is a high end tool company, but finding out that at least with their dust collectors, both the product and sometimes service was spotty.
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My first was a 2hp Grizzly, after a couple years I made a home made cyclone for it and dumped the bags - much better. Is Oneida the only one made in the USA? The dust collector will be used for the table saw, router and my kapex. Did the motor burn out or just stop working? Personally Im trying to decide between the Pflux 1.5 and the Mini Gorilla. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna.
It's proven to be a workhorse. I'll check them out, thanks. Some people claim that the shorter cyclone design used by Laguna and other manufacturers can reduce effective separation of fines from larger dust particles and cause the filter to clog faster.
Plus I had about $200 in store credit so I was only out of pocket about $900.
Relatively quiet, good build quality, good performance, sturdy, and great support from Oneida. Laguna Tools announces upgrades to its lineup of C Flux and P Flux cyclones and the upcoming launch of its new X Flux 5 dust collector.
Festool makes no representations about the accuracy, reliability, completeness or timeliness of the material on this website or about the results to be obtained from using the website. I try to keep repair cost of any unit to 75% or less than original cost, any more and tool gets replaced. One test I saw mentioned how good the dust separation was on the 1.5hp model you are looking at. Looks like there is a long wait on either one so I have more time to read/compare. I was looking at Jet & Laguna because I heard they would be on sale for Black Friday. I believe that dust collection is one of those specialized applications that might be best served by manufacturers who specialize in dust collection. All Rights Reserved. I think I would go with the Oneida. I'm looking at the Laguna 1.5HP & Jet 1.5HP. You are born weak & frail, and you die weak & frail. Guy at electric shop said it is what he calls a throw-away motor, not if but when it dies, better off replacing the whole unit. There are only two moving parts on a DC - the motor shaft and impeller. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Cloth filter bags are a PINTA to dump and clean which will be frequent if you do not have a cyclone. Thanks. Like Robo I have the 30gal because I have height limitations where I mounted it. They fixed it for me, and it is still running strong.
Yea, I checked my tools, nothing missing LOL, but for SnGs I will go through the chip bag to make sure it was a big piece of bark and not a tool that went through it. 2Hp does not sound like enough for a 20" planer. Not sure about the other systems, but I have a 3 hp Oneida, which can handle 2 machines at once. I think you really need to have a HEPA rated filter (especially if your shop is in your house), and then a properly designed cyclone to extend the life of the expensive HEPA filter. Our vision is to become an ecosystem of leading content creation companies through creativity, technology and collaboration, ultimately creating sustainable growth and future proof of the talent industry.
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