I splashed on Jan 16 2016 after a 4 1/2 year build and just turned 400 hours. scot you hit the nail on the head i just did not bother going over this shaft talk over and over.the bert 31 is being converted from a gasser ---guess what laddies all installations you have to remove the shaft anyway to cut lenth to fit diesel, whoever your machine shop will drop the bomb ! 52 Hatteras I wanted to find a good rebuild shop for the long blocks. 36 Uniflite And many, probably most, have been modified, repowered, and renovated. The result is efficient performance. Urbandale: DM - I-35/80 @ Meredith Dr (57) Saylor: DM - I-35 @ Corporate Woods DMS (37) Cedar Rapids: CR - I-380 @ 8th St NE (11) Pleasant Hill: DM - University Ave @ Hickory (46) Beverly Depot: CR - US 30 @ Williams Blvd SW (24) Council Bluffs: CB - 23rd Avenue . Shoreline Panels I would think aluminum would be much better. Works really nice.. 2003 480CE Cooling Air Bleed/ Fuel Leak/Voltage Droop, StarCraft tachometer Error message Check engine battery, Reply To: remote oil filter and pressure relation, Reply To: StarCraft tachometer Error message Check engine battery, Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective, This topic has 51 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. 36 Webber Cove by JohnCranston Sep 22nd, '08, 22:17, Post Tony did some really nice things on that boat. 34 Baha I do appreciate the detail, and could do much of what you suggest if and/or when I do get the boat. The re sale on a diesel is way greater. 26 Forteir Thornburg: Sigourney. Bob - I appreciate your point of view on Yanmars - definitely a personal preference thing. Is this boat still for sale? For the time being our 454's are running and I plan to keep them that way. And it does so while weighing some 70 kilograms less. by Harv Sep 22nd, '08, 21:51, Post Otherwise, I think it best to earn and save as much as possible for work down the road. pattick building tips;glass shaft logs,enlarged rudders and true up the strakes , a real bottom job with you actually reblocking beteen coats of interlux.the finesh job adding the 10,000 to the above and the recon cummins 315hp will exceed the yanmar6lpa-stp installation without the above changes.--trust me. Since before Cummins Engine Company marinized their 6B 5.9 engine in the 1970s Mako Marina was a Cummins distributor and installing Cummins Engines. The 220A gear has a 10 degree down angle and would not fit. Bertram I did not need to change shafts. I would think the 330s would be a better choice, especially hear in SoCal. Its Makos way of rewarding loyal customers for inviting their friends to become part of the Mako family. I have to say there were times when the line would not feed properly when retrieving the anchor. by fonsim May 17th, '16, 14:01, Post You have 454's and it's time to re-power: what option do you choose? The following model (rebranded as Carribean) of my boat came out with 300 6bta, then 315 6bta, then 330 6bta and now they come out of the factory with 355 QSB 6.7 and 5050A boxes. She currently has Perkins T6.354's rated at 185hp @ 2800 rpm. All rights reserved. And the stainless. Profile | Mechanical The Volvo gear that was in the lobster boat mated to an old 125 hp Volvo 40 was an 8 degree. the 13/8" shaft is aquanet 19 not good for 315hp diesel and 500 plus lbs of torque.dug is right do it right the first time.think about it; shaft breaks and you lose a 1300.00 dollar prop what did you gain? Repower Bertram 46.6. You need to decide on the size engine you want. To not highjack this thread Ive started a new one here: Im a little late on this post/project. I also have cummins 270s in mine. We hope to get started in the next 30-60 days. There are plenty of old diesel engines in service today. A few questions: 42 Bruno The cabin is redone, she air conditioned, complete with a new head and enclosure. 38 Holand The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. If you have any notable resplashes that youd like to see in the magazine, send us a note and some pictures: [emailprotected] ITB. Hello Bill Thank you for the comments and very nice catch! by Dug Sep 23rd, '08, 08:06, Post Marine and Boating Websites by YATCO BoatDeck, New 383 MAG Inboard 4V a perfect repower for all Bertram 28, 31 & 35s. This motors are cheap to repair and maintain. 1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172". A Bonnier LLC Company. Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. One regret we often hear from customers is when they sell their boat instead of repowering. Some finish up notes: On launch day, we pumped in 230 gallons of #2 and already had 20 in the tanks. Quick links. i would not even begin to start explaining but begin with basics ; v-8 in small diesel as oppose to in line 6 like cat,john deere,cummins,mtu,mann,etc. Fiberglass Do you have any interior pictures?. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Fiberglass Repower and head to the Bahamas. 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Dock Appeal: The boot stripe and house stripe blue were changed and painted in flag blue Awlgrip. by bertram 20 Jun 1st, '16, 16:50, Post Fiberglass Replacement Fly Bridge - Bertram 31: c Home - Bertram Parts | Company Profile | Mechanical | Electrical | Hardware | Contact Us | Marine and Boating . Fishability and Comfort: The cockpit is non slip (Dr. Pertrera is considering adding teak Sea Dek). 28 Main Boat 36 Tiara Unless salt water cooled your manifolds should last a good long time, risers on the other hand need to be replaced every few years "diesel don't loose rpm's going up the hill." Everything said on this post is true, all valid points. Copyright Boats-from-USA.com 2023. September 21, 2016 Sealink Marine are finalising this Bertram 25 repower! Thanks for the comment on the 330B as that describes what type of engine I am looking for. by Bill Mckinnon Sep 22nd, '08, 17:29, Post 36 Osmand Bea This time around it's a Bertram 25 from 1980 which we have decided to repower with two beautiful Yamaha f200 . The GOOD windlass is the best windlass Ive ever used on a boat. The remote is a Lewmar device. The exspolsion blew everybody in the water. . Boat has Covered top flybridge, outriggeers, no soft spots, no damage. 33 Egg Harbor Where I boat there are long stretches of river running to the ocean and I didnt want a down easter that cruised at 16 knots. by bob lico Dec 30th, '15, 22:35, Post Engine Accessories He repowered her w/ Yanmar 4LHs (must be 15 years now) and she cruises great and sips fuel. Sadly the 6BT wont fit, so hes choosing between Yanmar 4 and 6 cylinder options. What speed are the Yanmars rated at, and what transmission ratio are you considering? Fenders and Bumpers I've got 454s in my 31 and I replaced one of the motors last year total cost was around $6000, I will likely replace the other motor in a few years. Rod Holders Your comments make me feel more comfortable that if the boat is running well, that an imminent re-power may not be necessary at all..thanks again. When I disassembled my 25 I discovered there had been a small fire under the fuel tank, in the bilge. Cockpit Deck Soles The 370 is mated to a ZF63A gear 1.54:1 ratio which has an 8 degree down angle. All great advice but for your budget, I would strongly suggest selling your existing boat and buying a 31 Bertram that is already converted to diesel. I read in the posts here about a windlass ?? My Cummins 6Bs are rated at 315/330HP, with a max cruise speed of 2,800 RPMs. Sunstar Restoration Project - The Rebirth of a Star. They're mostly heavy (for their output), dirty, loud, slow, and in need of TLC. They are making excellent progress and have really cleaned up the under deck area and engine compartments. 2021-22 Sportfish Build Report: Merritts Boat and Engine A First Look at the New Hulls from Bertram Yachts, From Lightning Strike to New Boat: The Story of the Artemis. Note down under our fuel is much more expensive (currently $1.60 per litre) hence we tend to run less hp. Cockpit Panels Great project! I had at least 200 lbs of tools and other things on board too. Will try to get a season or two out of them, then re-power. Will you be hands-on in the project in order to control costs? I dont know, I like to keep things simple, it would take a bit to get me to leave behind my mechanical Bs, unless maybe if I lived down the street from Corey. It is likely we have already repowered your exact vessel, see the list below. by John F. May 17th, '16, 09:00, Post I am based in Reno, NV but grew up in Southern California and look forward to getting back on the water fishing. The worst was 12 people in a day cruiser with 2 fatalities. by JP Dalik Sep 22nd, '08, 19:09, Post Bass Pro Shops & Cabela's Boating Centers combine to be the world's largest Mercury outboard motor dealer. I am considering re-powering my Bertram as I currently have 8V92TIs and thinking of the Yanmar 720's Looking for some info on the Yanmar's if anyone has tried them out The props are monstrous and hold the boat in the water like no other being duo-props and made from a very sturdy nibral material. Is this boat still available? 37 Mathews Bait Wells Bertram Model: Moppie 31 Type: Sport Fisherman Hull Material: Fiberglass Use: Salt Water Engine Type: Twin Inboard Engine Make: Cummins Primary Fuel Type: Diesel For Sale By: Private Seller Fuel Capacity: Over 200 Gallons Hull ID Number: BERG1853M80H31580 Length: 31.0 feet Beam: 9.5 feet Raiting: Cancel rating Give Bertram Moppie 31 1/5 . I do not have an unlimited budget and acknowledge I will have to make some tough choices. She's faster than my gasser was at cruise. Walter. It has 9,32 meters length, 3,4 m. the boat's beam and prop is 1,70 meters long. See how Kim Audas has repowered his with a single, MerCruiser 350HP inboard. Vents and Boating Resources, 851 Ridge Drive | Hendersonville, NC. Our business plans have changed and lack of time forces sell. Works really well. Tons of work but the boat and the speed I was searching for turned out spot on with Tonys input on engineering the power train. After its restoration it has real weight with half-filled deposit of 7.5 tones. It is leisure and recreational fishing boat that holds up to 8 people. 3) Funds (more than a little). The $10,000 wasn't the only reason I went with Cummins. At 2200 rpms and 22 knts, the motors are loafing. Not as quick as my 20-year-old, who picked it up in a second, but I picked it up pretty quick.. Blackened the surface of a small section of the glass. Please contact Morgan Bertram at 954 614 2087. the marinize version is a POS. Door Parts Skip to content. The famous ride is undeniably one of the best. For example, there are a lot of people with older 28, 31, 35 Bertrams who are still running their original, tired engines, said David Meehan, Director of MerCruiser (Australia, New Zealand, Pacific). After 4 years and a half restauration (2013-2018) we are already enjoying its fantastic performance and excellent output in the Mediterranean Sea. by Navatech Dec 29th, '15, 10:37, Post For convenience I also paint orange stripes on my rode every 30 feet. 42 Provincial by ranjr13 Dec 29th, '15, 11:12, Post Many 31's have been renovated at great expense, including new engines. I have Hurth HSW630A 2.0:1 transmissions and 1 3/8" shafts with 1823 nib ram props with a 060 cup.. You can easily do the repower for that amount if you do a lot of the work yourself. Bill, What windlass remote setup do you have or use? Great opportunity to own a boat of the ages. 1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939, i would go with the mercruiser 383s 370HP carbureted and more torque than the 454 and less weight than the 454 a boat that I work on (not a Bertram)a searay he took out a big block and did a 383 and he loves it he gained fuel mileage less weight and he absolutely loves the engine and the boat performs better than it did. NEVER an issue dropping or hauling anchor solo. For the last decade we have averaged 10 repowers a year. The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans, Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce, Post by capy Sep 24th, '08, 08:42, Post My parameters for evaluating a refit lie at the intersection of three pieces of the puzzle: 1) Vision and good taste. Rail does not matter as much. I use controls on the bridge and a remote when I want to operate from the bow. I doubt the PO ever even knew it happened! If you're putting 300 hp engines of any brand, you should up your shaft size, especially on a higher rpm Yanmar. by IRGuy Sep 22nd, '08, 21:13, Post And it does so while weighing some 70 kilograms less. It was acquired in Nautic Club Ibiza (Spain) in quite a bad shape with no maintenance. by Bruce Dec 31st, '15, 13:00, Post 25 Buddy Davis. Nothing missing. We made 41-42K in some nice weather, but realistically, shes only a solid 30K cruiser when you can hold on. 200 rpms available if you want or need them. Courtesy Volvo Penta. This t. The boat has very low hour gas engines (200 hours total on recent Crusader "Captains Choice" 8.1 MPI) so our plan would be to use those engines indefinitely (we are low-hour users, so a diesel repower doesn't make economic sense). 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