To date, we've had a short overview of the following big-bore cartridges, and the machinery that fires them, in comparison to my favorite Big Bore, the .458 Winchester Magnum: .404 Jeffery; .416 Rigby; .500 NE; .458 Lott; .416 Weatherby Magnum; .505 Gibbs; .460 Weatherby Magnum and, last week, the .470 NE. The two I got to shoot that I hadn't before was a .460 Weatherby Magnum and a Barrett .50 caliber rifle. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. (Cordite is stable in disgusting climates, and looks like strands of uncooked spaghetti. Beautiful timber, gorgeous traditional SAKO gloss blueing. Oscar, everyone has their own opinion when it comes to firearms but I would stay with the 458 Lott. This incident made him believe that ammo more powerful than the 458 Winchester ammo he was hunting with was vital for dangerous games. A double rifle is perhaps the best choice for up close and personal dangerous game work. A Heym Model 89B in .470 Nitro Express, on safari. A-Frame (.375 BC/.319 SD) at 2300 fps. That's way more than the other .416s and even more than .458 Lott and nips at the heels of the .505 Gibbs. This is a Beast of a Rifle. I have never regretted the decision. It was, and is, a very effective cartridgesome say better than the .470 NEand it is considerably cheaper. 5,6x52r (22 savage hp) 6 mm ppc. It too has power and reach, but recoil much higher than the .375 put it into second place. MAGAZINES. Jack Lott designed the 458 Lott Ammo. Now, we're getting into the realm of the true stopping rifles. It made the professional ivory hunters very happy, as well as the visiting sportsmen. This included famous gun writer and hunter Jack Lott who blamed the .458 Win Mag for not stopping a Cape buffalo that almost killed him in 1959. Housed in their Ruger Hawkeye African rifle, the .416 Ruger makes a good choice for the budget-minded hunter who wants the excellent performance of the 400-grain .416 bullets in a handy rifle. Three years ago I bought one. I have both, and while the 460 is more powerful, with a muzzle break, I don't think it kicks a hole lot more than my ruger no. Also the 270 or 300 grain bullets in the 375 have a lot less recoil than the 500 to 550 grain bullets. The .470 is one of my favorites, and it works perfectly. A .458 which fires 500 grain bullets at 2300 fps and fits into most rifle actions. Lott's cartridge was simply a .458 Winchester Magnum lengthened by 0.3 inch, allowing more powder without compression. Licence # 50001512. The .375 Ruger uses the same case head diameter as the .375 H&H, looses the belt, and uses a wider body to keep the case capacity in the same ballpark as the H&H design. Anything under 40 caliber is a cap gun!!! Read the loading books and you'll see that a 460 can easily be loaded to the level of performance of a 458 Lott. The.460 Weatherby Magnum requires a large propellant capacity in order to propel a 500 gr (32 g) bullet at 2,700 ft/s (820 m/s). I own and have shot in Africa the .375, 9.3x62, 416 Rem Mag, .458 and a .470 NE. Jack Lott designed the .458 Lott after an unsatisfactory experience with the .458 Winchester and an angry Cape buffalo. When introduced in the mid-1950s, the .458 Winchester Magnum held much promise. Factory bought cartridges are relatively expensive costing between $4.00 and $5.50 per cartridge. The .416 Remington Magnum has become the most popular .416 because unlike the one which started it all, the .416 Rigby, it is the same length as the .375 H&H so more rifle makers offer a model chambered for it. Eventually, however, Kynoch learned that, as necessary as the ammunition manufacture for these big game cartridges was, they couldn't make any money loading them. AccuBond (R). All cast from the same basic case are the original .375 H&H, at an overall length of 3.6 inches, the .416 Remington Magnum of equal magnum length and the .458 Winchester Magnum, which has been shortened to an overall length of 3.34 inches so as to function in the standard length, affordable M70 Winchester and similar .30-06 length bolt actions. 458 lott 458 win. Gunworld Australia, QLD, 4118. (L-R): .458 Win. The .458 Lott Ammo can also achieve a muzzle velocity of 2150 fps with a 600-grain bullet. Having said all that the .458 is a cartridge that I personally would never consider using. The .500 NE is largely the tool of professional hunters because its recoil is grim. If I lived in Africa or Europe, I wouldnt hesitate to get a 9.3x62. 2. It was designed for use with Cordite, which was one of the first successful smokeless propellants. MFG #: MDX01N460WR8B. But, that is not the case if the .460 was not a high speed magnum,. The gun weighed around 11 pounds and had a mercury recoil reducer and a generous rubber butt pad. .458 Lott. Barnes Vor-TX Safari ammo in .416 Rigby. Location: South Carolina. One point for every 10 yards beyond 150 yards for minimum expansion velocity, one point deducted for every 10 yards less. Winchester investigated and found that the heavily compressed loads of ball powder that they were using, had a habit of clumping together causing fickle ignition and less than desirable performance. It's the Hybrid 46M, and it's rated for all centerfire pistol and rifle calibers. November 6, 2002, 07:05 AM #2: Al Thompson. Out of stock. It, along with the .375, is a great choice for Alaskan bear hunting where shots are sometimes on the long side, and it is a better choice if you have to dive into the alders after a wounded bear. Wikipedia Creative Commons. Learn how your comment data is processed. levels. In a 10-pound rifle, it delivers 85 foot-pounds of kick. Ammo is readily available, but the price is not for the economically challenged. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. A buff which a .458 Win. If you like fast, and you enjoy heave bullets, the .416 Weatherby may be for you. Which one is best then? The ones that shoot back, Ive heard them called, and its a valid label. Things went along just peachy for a while. Its not nearly so long as the Rigby round, but it delivers the same ballistics400-grain bullets at 2,400 fps. Muzzle velocities are the nominal industry standard for the tested bullet weight in each caliber for factory loaded ammunition. 458 MCW EXPRESS. I chose a .375 Holland & Holland Magnum decades ago. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Jack Lott's experiences with the .458 Winchester Magnum in Mozambique in 1959 left him wanting more, as a Cape buffalo roughed him up a bit. The less recoil, the more accurate the shooter, and hence, the more effective the cartridge. Therefore, the .458 Lott Ammo is versatile because it works well for hunting small to medium games and is also a perfect fit when youre hunting dangerous games like the African Buffalo and Alaskan brown bear. 400 gr. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. While there are some hunters that enjoy hunting with these .500s, but often they are reserved for the Professional Hunters who need to pursue wounded game at very close distances. Recoil from the Lott can be quite a handful and the Weatherby would be more punishing on the shoulder. Pushing 400-grain bullets at 2,700 fps, it generates energy levels in excess of 6,600 ft-lbs. Well it is right behind the mighty .460 Weatherby in both velocity and energy, but way ahead of the .458 Win. In some cases, a particular cartridge is included just because the author thinks its interesting. 300 gr. The .375 Weatherby is essentially a .375 Improved, but with the trademark Weatherby double radius shoulder. Some hunting reports for Takeri Reserve Zambia posted by members of AfricaHunting.com: You must log in or register to reply here. Components are precision machined from billet aluminum and protected with Cerakote. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. The SOCOM round can fire bullets within a 200-600 grain range, though 250gr, 300gr, and 350gr factory loads are the most common. Winchester engineers modified and shortened the .375 H&H cartridge case, and loaded a 500 grain bullet in front of enough powder to provide a muzzle velocity of about 2150 feet per second (FPS), basically replicating the Nitro Express cartridges ballistically. In order to reduce the cartridge length, the Winchester engineers sacrificed powder capacity and instead of getting the 2,150 fps they wanted, the real-world muzzle velocity with a 500-grain bullet was often around 1,900 fps, which is a lot of horsepower to forfeit. The 458 Win. The good thing is that with the developments in modern bullets, many of the cartridges will perform much better than when they were first released. SKU : APAR308554M27 3 or 4 is quite enough. Barnes Vor-TX Safari ammo in .458 Lott. The powder Winchester had selectedit clumped inside the case in hot weather. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 460 JURRAS. (L-R): 9.3x62, .30-06, 8x57, 6.5x55, .308, Kalshnikov at en. 460 Weatherby Magnum 470 Caliber: 470 Nitro Express 475 Caliber: 475/416 Rigby Improved 500 Caliber: 500 Jeffery 505 Gibbs 500 A-Square 585 Caliber: 577 Nitro Express 3 Inch 577 Tyrannosaur 585 Nyati 600 Caliber: 600 Nitro Express . ME from a 26" barrel. Heralded by famous hunters like John 'Pondoro' Taylor and Col. Jim Corbett, its reputation is well-founded. This one is a sleeper. Modern loads will drive the same 400-grainer to 2,350 fps, putting this cartridge in the same realm as the 416s; my own favorite handloads run at a muzzle velocity of 2,280 fps, and in my Heym Express bolt-action rifle, it's one of my favorite rifle/cartridge combinations ever. mag. While the "standard" calibers especially with modern bullets can handle 90 percent or more of the world's game, these cartridges are usually reserved for the big beasts. Would need a new bolt though. Mag. You have entered an incorrect email address! With the A-Frame, all these rounds have an MPBR between 200 and 240 yards, which places them in the same trajectory envelop as the .30-30, .308, and .30-06. The .405 Winchester was one of Teddy Roosevelt's favorites, one he called his "medicine gun for lions" while on his famous safari across East Africa. Its an ancient round that was designed by W.J. Lott's condemnation lead to decreased sales for the .458 Win Mag until Winchester switched to a more temperature stable powder in the 1970s. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. More power, more muzzle blast, and gobs more recoil than almost any other dangerous game cartridge on the market today. about norma; faq; . It wasn't a huge success, but the design is sound. The .416 Rigby is almost exclusively loaded with 400-grain bullets. norma logotype. .458 Lott Jack Lott designed the 458 Lott Ammo. You are using an out of date browser. It still has an MPBR just beyond 200 yards and a 175 yard dangerous game effective range. This one is a particular favorite of mine, as it blends classic Africana with a slick-feeding, hard hitting cartridge. But the .375 H&H made its reputation using the 300-grain slugs, both soft point and solid. This means they are all suitable for average hunting ranges. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. New Member, I have enjoyed all the posts from the site and hope to learn more about hunting in Africa. The .45-70 dates back to 1873, and while it is loaded to appreciable velocities in the modern, strong actions, the case itself is rather thin. [18] Released in 2000, the .450 Marlin was developed by Hornady to offer the ballistics of the hottest .45-70 loads, but in a belted cartridge that would feed easier than the rimmed .45-70. The .460 Magnum just about extracted all the fillings in my teeth, and was so friggen LOUD, the owner recommended we use sponge ear plugs AND ear muffs. The 400-grain bullets can be pushed to 1,900 or even 2,000 fps in modern loads, making it a good choice for the North American heavyweights, namely the brown bear and bison. of energy. And Im not alone in this opinion. It worked so well it became the standard for large game, including both African and Asian elephants, buffalo, tigers, lions, and rhinoceros. Far too much emphasis is placed on bullet diameter and not enough on velocity as well as penetration. The gun trade has to live somehow and every rifle sale and purchase is money in their pocket. That bullet passed through its paunch, took the top of the heart, and was recoverd under its jawbone. The A-Frame penetrates deep into heavy, tough animals such as Cape buffalo, yet expands well enough for use against large, non-dangerous game (elk, moose, kudu, etc.). The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Ive killed a number of Cape buffalo with it, and have taken follow-up shots only as a matter of courtesy; the first slug invariably did the trick. Don't worry about the people who say either is enough to take out a bull elephant so what more do you need? Best bet with the Jeff is load your own and keep velocity where it belongs: between 2100 and 2200 fps. McCaa on Why Dangerous Game G. for the Gibbs). The "Three-Seven-Five" is one of the world's great cartridges. . A-Frame (.361 BC/.341 SD) at 2300 fps. These were handloaded 500 grain Barnes solids traveling at 2050 fps. the .475 No. One caveat regarding the .405 Winchester: it was, and is, designed for a 300-grain bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2,200 fps, and that bullet has a relatively low Sectional Density (.252), so please be aware that can have a significant effect on penetration. The .416 Remington Magnum is the ballistic twin of the older .416 Rigby, driving a 400-grain bullet to 2,400 fps. A-Frame (.285 BC/.305 SD) at 2360 fps. Out of a collection, always stored in a gun stock, wasn't bought to bush bash with, only used at the rifle range. Mag., this country's first dangerous game big bore way back in 1956, was supposed to drive a 500-gr. Perhaps there was a concern in the 1950s that the Communists were going to provide body armor to buffalo in an attempt to humiliate the American Imperialists. Subscriber Services. He would go on to use the gun for 50 years, retiring from the safari business in 2000 at the age of 75. Using a voluminous case to keep pressures low in the tropical heat, the modern loads for the Rigby will drive a 400-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2,400 fps, for over 5,000 foot-pounds of energy in modern loads. Driving a 400-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2,125 fps, the .450/400 3-inch immediately gained an excellent reputation, as it could be housed in a lightweight double rifle, offering low recoil and a quick second shot. The .375 H&H is perhaps the most versatile rifle cartridge ever developed. The .460 Weatherby Magnum, like the .375 H&H Magnum, is a relatively flat shooting cartridge. Can you really tell a .458 Mag kick from say a .378 Weatherby Magnum? If I could have only one rifle it would be the 375 H&H. 280 Remington; 284 Win; 30 Carbine; 30 Nosler; 30 Rem AR; 30 Remington; 30 TC; 30-06; 30-30 Win; 30-378 Wby Mag; 30-40 Krag; 300 BLK; 300 H&H; 300 Norma Mag; 300 Pegasus; 300 PRC; 300 RCM; 300 Rem . Compared to its contemporaries, the 460 Weatherby Magnum has more energy at 150 yards than the .458 Winchester Magnum does at the muzzle and at a 100 yards more energy than the .458 Lott with factory ammunition. Youll know that you have fired a gun, but the experience will not leave you walking in circles. ), large game (1500 ft-lbs), and dangerous game (3000 ft-lbs.). Its more versatile than people think. Let's take a look at some of the big guys and their performance. Plus, the minimum velocity most hunting bullets require for reliable expansion (1800 fps). So swallow that lump in your throat and keep reading. I have heard the recoil of the .378 Weatherby Magnum described as "soul crushing," and I'm not one to argue with that statement. BC quantifies a bullets aerodynamic efficiency, and SD predicts relative ability to penetrate into a game animal; the larger each number, the better. Hand loaders can achieve much better performance in many instances. It has the lowest recoil among dangerous game rounds. While the 9.3x62 will get the job done, many African countries require a minimum .375 caliber round. Midway USA. Lott became convinced Winchester's cartridge needed more velocity. Mag. of energy. 460 weatherby magnum. The high Sectional Density of the 400-grain slugs gives phenomenal penetration, and over a century later, the .416 Rigby is perfectly suited to any game animal on earth. The .375 Weatherby has a muzzle velocity of 2,800 fps with the 300-grain bullets, but that most definitely comes with additional recoil. The price of Weatherby ammo is even higher than for the Lott. . In the shooting sports we call that reaction recoil or "kick." If you reload then the 375 or 416 will do anything in the world you want it to from antelope to Cape Buffalo. I have no idea what problem the Weatherby was intended to solve. It is the one cartridge most African PHs recommend for their clients. Its 286 grain bullets have the same sectional density as a 300 grain, .375 which means they penetrate deep into big, tough animals. It is about as much gun as I care to shoot from the bench, however in the penultimate moment during a hunt, the recoil seems to vanish. The.460 Weatherby Magnum is intended to have headspace on its belt. Especially ignore those who say that what matters is where you place the bullet. The satin finished stock has cut checkering, the steel bottom metal is one-piece, and the pre-64 Winchester action is one that is revered by African professional hunters. The author analyzed the 9.3x62 Mauser, .375 H&H Magnum, .416 Remington Magnum, .404 Jeffery, .458 Winchester Magnum, .458 Lott, and .505 Gibbs for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Hornady Dangerous Game Series Superformance in .458 Winchester Magnum. I have killed two elephant with it and one with the 470 NE. However, during experimentation, the case ended up at 2800 inches. 458 Belted Express Load Data 3" 450 Rigby Load Data. You don't want to show up under-gunned on a Cape buffalo hunt. The .470 was an immediate success, and it remains the most popular of the Nitro Express cartridges. Massaro with a Mozambican Cape buffalo, cleanly taken with a Heym 89B in .450/400 3" Nitro Express. was listed 2130 f.p.s. It makes a great all-around dangerous game cartridge. Home News Random Article The idea of shooting something like a .460 Weatherby or .500 S&W may have positively frightened some of them. Harvesting bison, elk, moose, and brown bear can be performed by lowering the cartridge's performance to meet the criteria. The .416 caliber has made a resurgence with shooters since the mid-1990s for one big reason, the .416 Remington Magnum. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. The Lott is about optimum for a 500 grain 45 caliber elephant round. It is also referred to as the .458 3-inch. It's a Browning X-Bolt Stainless Stalker. .460 Weatherby Magnum vs .458 Winchester Magnum, .460 Weatherby Magnum vs .600 Nitro Express. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 45-70 Level 3, VS .458 Win Mag VS .458 Lott, VS .460 Weatherby. This is the cartridge most African PHs advise their clients to bring on safari, especially if they bring just one gun. The 45/70 uses a .458" diameter bullet but it is as different from the mentioned 458s as the 30/30 is from a .300 Win mag. The .475 NE. Roy Weatherby designed the 460 Weatherby Magnum, a belted, bottlenecked rifle cartridge, in 1958. The recoil is a factor of training more than anything I think. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. 460 GUNS & AMMO LONG. Fit for everything from deer to the Big Five. of energy. 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